Capt. Jack For Sale

[Capt_Jack_our_Basenji]

Your name: Kira and Geoffrey Hayes
Your city, state:Groton, Connecticut
Your phone number: 740-334-9321
Basenji(s) For Sale:1 Red and White Male (nurtered) with special needs
Age of Basenji(s): 5/6 years
Price: Make an Offer (or free if needed to be shiped)
Do you ship your Basenjis: I cant pay for it

We have had Jack for over a year, but recently had a baby. Since the baby has been here, he has been growling at, and occasionally nipping at any strangers (only in our house not when we are anywhere else). He needs a home with no children in my opinion, even though he's showed NO aggression towards children. He doesnt like cats or non nurtered male dogs. Other than that he is house trained and a WONDERFUL dog. (doesnt crate) I want him to go to a great home. He also has lyme disease, but we had him on medication for it and now he hasnt had any signs of it in over eight months. His shots are all updated.

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[tanza]

Have you contacted BRAT?

[Capt_Jack_our_Basenji]

Talked to someone from BRAT and because he doesnt crate they told me that we should try other options first. And the person I talked to was kind of rude too!

[Quercus]

Talked to someone from BRAT and because he doesnt crate they told me that we should try other options first. And the person I talked to was kind of rude too!


Great :rolleyes: ....maybe someone here can pull some BRAT strings....

[Quercus]

I am really glad you decided to look into this option. Please make sure there wherever you decide to place Jack, it is a family that has experience with Basenjis, or another "challenging" breed of dog. Otherwise, he is going to have the same problems in a new home.

Good luck <hugs> I know how hard this is for you...you are doing a really brave, and kind thing for Jack.

[tanza]

I agree, you really are doing what is the kind thing for Jack..... Kudos... and I too hope that someone here involved with BRAT can pull some strings... certainly 90% of the B's that are in BRAT are most likely not crate trained...

[sharronhurlbut]

I am sorry the BRAT person you spoke to was rude.
Having seen all your post, I know what care you have put into this basenji, and how hard this was for you.
I am hopeful you can go to the BRAT site, list your basenji on the computer and let everyone who does this type of rescue help you.
You can contact me privately for the BRAT site..

[renaultf1]

Kira, I know this was a really hard, heart felt decision but I definitely think you are doing a courageous and good thing for Jack and for your family. I agree with what Andrea & Pat are saying regarding BRAT...many of the dogs on their website either have trouble with crate training or can't be crated, so I'm sorry that you were given a hard time about Jack's crate training. Hopefully someone here can help out with getting him into BRAT...hang in there. Kim

[Capt_Jack_our_Basenji]

I filled out all the information about Jack on their website. Im waitng to hear from (hopefully) someone else. I was Surprized at the rude person, lol. She acted like I was giving up on Jack and wasnt trying hard enough. Made me feel like I should have never called. But maybe she was having a bad day...We will see where this all goes. Ive contacted a breeder around here as well. We are heartbroken about not having our B around so we are looking into getting a puppy and starting fresh. My mom is a trainer with experience with mainly skipperkee's but shes trained B's and some problem breeds as well and she is planning on coming here to CT when we get a new puppy to help us. I think by getting a puppy from a breeder will lessen the possibility of getting in this situation again. And I can have more control over the early training. (plus my life without a Basenji would be...well, pointless!! hahaa. I just wish It's Still be with my Jackers...........)

[sharronhurlbut]

I am glad you put Jack on the BRAT website, and again, I am sorry your were not treated well.
We are all non paid, and I try very hard to be kind to everyone I come into contact with..
But lets see how we can help you rehome your boy...
I have to say, and I am saying this out of total kindness...
You need to focus on your baby and family right now.
You sure don't need a puppy of any breed to tend.
Having this lovely child will take all your time and energy for a few years...
but once your ready, I do hope we can help you find a basenji for your home...one that like children!

[tanza]

I agree with Sharron... right now you should concentrate on the baby and the family... there will be lots of time for a puppy when things are not so confusing....

[tanza]

I should add that I think you are a great B home and when the time is right, you will know regardless if you get a pup or another rescue...

[sharronhurlbut]

Yes, Pat is right, we can help you once your family is less busy and your not so sleep deprived.
We are all here to help you with an new basenji, be it rescue, or pup, but please, make sure you have *time* to devote to this pup...like you would to a child...
2 legs or 4, they all need to be babied until they are growm....
...

[Quercus]

Yes, Pat is right, we can help you once your family is less busy and your not so sleep deprived.
We are all here to help you with an new basenji, be it rescue, or pup, but please, make sure you have *time* to devote to this pup...like you would to a child...
2 legs or 4, they all need to be babied until they are growm....
...

Double ditto!

[renaultf1]

Have to agree with what Sharon, Andrea & Pat have already said...hold off on getting a pup until you have more time and enjoy the baby time with Aiden. I think the other thing, is that if you introduced a pup even within 6 months, Aiden will still be baby and the puppy will already grow to adult or near adult by the time Aiden is a toddler. An adult might not be as tolerant of a toddler pulling (ears & tails) & poking. Just a thought.

[Capt_Jack_our_Basenji]

Thanks!!!!

[Capt_Jack_our_Basenji]

:D So we decided we are going to keep Jack we found a behaviorist with some interesting ideas on how we can train Jack. And he is doing GREAT, in fact I had a few friends over yesterday and we were ALL playing with Jack and Aiden and had NO problems!! (Jack got into the bathroom trash but thats normal @@) I'm VERY excited about not having to let Jack go...Im really hoping this works because so far (knock on wood) thing are going GREAT! I wanted to thank you all for the support and I promise to let you ALL know whats going on and how things are progressing!! IM EXCITED!!!!:D

[Quercus]

That is great! Share with us what is working!

[JazzysMom]

Oh Kira ! That is wonderful news!
I know you were just sick at the thought of giving him up.

Do share what the tips/methods are that you're using.

[renaultf1]

Great news...can't wait to hear what the behaviorist recommended that is helping things at your house. Fantastic! :D

[BasenjiDiva]

I am so happy to hear that it looks like it will work out okay. I felt so bad for all of you! Keeping fingers crossed!!!

Pat

[MaxBooBooBear]

I am so so glad to hear this. It really did sound like you and your hubby cared enough about Jack to overcome these trying times. And I know it would be so so difficult for you to give Jack up. I really hope things work out--and it sure sounds like you are doing everything possible to make it work.

[sharronhurlbut]

Please do keep us updated.
We are all so hoping this all works out for the whole family!
Hugs

[youngandtired]

I am so glad you are keeping Capt. Jack, I know you both love him. Now he will learn to love Aiden as well. Please keep us posted, I am so happy for you both and the Captain too.

[tanza]

:D So we decided we are going to keep Jack we found a behaviorist with some interesting ideas on how we can train Jack. And he is doing GREAT, in fact I had a few friends over yesterday and we were ALL playing with Jack and Aiden and had NO problems!! (Jack got into the bathroom trash but thats normal @@) I'm VERY excited about not having to let Jack go...Im really hoping this works because so far (knock on wood) thing are going GREAT! I wanted to thank you all for the support and I promise to let you ALL know whats going on and how things are progressing!! IM EXCITED!!!!:D

Wow.. that is sure super news.... ....

[MacPack]

Excellent! I hope the training does the trick, but you may have a few "2 steps forward and 1 step backward" times, just keep up the work and be patient. New babies are one of the many reasons basenjis get placed in rescue, it is just overwhelming to have the new baby, no sleep, and a dog whose world has changed and may not react well to the changes. Sounds like you have found a good person to work with, and Jack will stay your boy after all!

Good Luck,
Anne in Tampa

[luzmery928]

I have been away from the forum for a bit of time due to work and well since we have our 2nd B, my hands are really full at home but I decided to come in and check on my old basenji friends. I remember when you frst announced ur pregnancy and have followed you through the whole thing and reading up on Jacks attachment and behavior with you. I came on and was sad to read that you had decided to give him up, though I do agree at that time, it was best and now I'm so happy to read things are working out. I wish you the best and look forward to reading more updates. Best wishes!

[Capt_Jack_our_Basenji]

question:just got home from a 4 day trip with Aiden and Jack wont stop trying to hump me since ive been home (an hour) never happened b4 when ive been gone (ive been just ignoring that action and been distracting himwith playing rope)just wondering why tho...lol, its weird, he nw=ever does that ever...

sry if itys tmi

[JazzysMom]

question:just got home from a 4 day trip with Aiden and Jack wont stop trying to hump me since ive been home (an hour) never happened b4 when ive been gone (ive been just ignoring that action and been distracting himwith playing rope)just wondering why tho...lol, its weird, he nw=ever does that ever...

sry if itys tmi

ew. :p

Maybe it's a re-establishing of his "ownership" of you, since you went away with "the new guy"?

Just a guess.......

[felakuti]

Just curious, what does Jack do if you put him in a large wire crate?

[Barklessdog]

Mounting is usually a sign of domination. He could be seeing himself as the alpha, trying to re-establish the pack order ?

[Capt_Jack_our_Basenji]

he quit after about and hour. Thank goodness, he is SO random and weird somtimes...If i put him in a crate, he paws and bited the wires until he gets out or makes himself bleed....and he SCREAMS the whole time....

[lvoss]

Mounting is usually a sign of domination. He could be seeing himself as the alpha, trying to re-establish the pack order ?
Actually, many people in research no longer feel that mounting is usually a sign of domination. Though it can be a sign of domination it seems to be used in many other situations including as a stress reliever.

[massagemom3]

hahahah..I'm not laughing at you I'm laughing with you, Sally does that same thing to my son. Yes she is a girl, and extremely shy, but when my DS comes home from school she sometimes does that. We just laugh and she stops. We haven't tried to fix it, because she does stop once we start laughing at her. Poor thing she just loves her brother's. Strange still the same!

[Bellehound]

A lot of times dogs also mount as a way to initiate play. Most B's hate water and you can use a squirt bottle to get their attention, and possibly stop their mounting. One of my alpha females (until she was recently spayed) used to run around and mount all of my male dogs, she would even follow my service dog around and attempt to mount him when she was in season. Now that was a site! A Basenji trying to mount the head of a Thai Ridgeback. Bruiser would just look at me w/his pleading eyes saying "please help me MOM!" as soon as she was spayed (or came out of season) she would quit. I think she just wanted them to know she was (and still is) boss.