Help!!!!

[Ninabeana26]

So I have a little bit of a situation here & need some opinions...

Mark & I bring home Dallas (our new B puppy) on Thursday of this week. He will be 9 weeks + 1 day when we get him. Now the issue is the possibility of adding another dog in April. Not just any other dog either...a pittbull :eek:

So here's the deal...Mark's brother is in the Marines & found out that he is being deployed to Iraq in April for 9 months. He has a 1 year old pitt (pure bred - got from a reputable breeder, etc). that as far as he tells me is well trained, great with other dogs, loves women, etc. BUT can be very territorial of his home.

He asked us if we would take him for the 9 months he will be deployed. If we say no, he is talking about giving the dog away all together since there is no one else who could possibly take him :( He absolutely doesn't want to do this since he says it's his "baby". I've outlined some pros/cons that I have thought of but please let me know honestly what you guys think!

Pros:
We'd be helping out Mark's brother a great deal
Dallas would have another dog to play with...hopefully
Dallas would get used to having another dog in the house (we're already talking of getting another B after Dallas is about 1-2 years old)
He is well trained so I wouldn't have to worry on that aspect (as far as I know)

Cons:
What if he & Dallas fight?!? He could literally eat a B!
He is territorial of his home so would that make him be territorial with Dallas as well & cause chaos?
Dallas will only be with us 3.5 months by then & I don't want to freak him out bringing a new dog, one three times his size & could literally eat him in one chomp, into HIS home...

I'm really battling with this so any opinions would greatly help!

[hdolbow]

although im no expert, i do know that pits have a horrible reputation. I know people with pits and they are the sweetest dogs ever. It's really depends on how the dog is raised. If it came from a good breeder, and is well taken care of, it doesn't matter WHAT breed it is, if it's uncomfortable, you will know. B's can even be this way.. If his pit is not aggressive towards the puppy, you or anyone else in your house, i dont honestly see a problem, because you probably wouldnt be leaving them alone together.. and you're right, it does get your puppy used to having another dog in the house.. It's only a year old, so it, itself, is still a puppy in nature. I would never say just do it on a whim.. its something you would have to really put effort into, you know? they'd have to spend time together WAY before you made a firm decision..

[Ninabeana26]

they'd have to spend time together WAY before you made a firm decision..

Yea the problem is that couldn't really happen. If we decide to take him, Justin (Mark's brother) would send him via airplane to Orlando from Cali (where he is currently stationed) & that'd be it. So we couldn't really expose them to each other before agreeing to keep him. That makes it even more of a big decision...

[hdolbow]

wow, that situation is really horrible..:( i could never imagine giving my two little rascals away..

Rocky is pretty territorial. well.. EXTREMELY territorial.. one night my boyfriend couldnt even walk in our bedroom because rocky was laying with me in bed and growled when he came in the doorway.. like i'm HIS. lol he doesnt like dogs really.. Max, (my boyfriend's aunts dog.. about the size of a great dane.. and the biggest WIMP out there..who runs around in the horse pasture with the horses) is acrosss the street and rocky tries to attack him through the fence.. and pees everywhere.. hes attacked my parents lab/rotty mix the first couple times they were together.. but now LOVES playing with her.. (the actual reason we decided on getting the puppy) but we got the puppy and im not gonna lie, he actually went after her, like not playing.. and i had to put him in a different room. three hours later when i wasnt here, my boyfriend had them together and they were completely fine, playing and talking to each other.. so my crazy, territorial, bipolar dog, (LOL) was perfectly fine after warming up to the pup.. he's still not 100% with her.. but he is VERY gentile. and he is 2 1/2.


anythings possible.. they could be best friends or worst enemies, you just gotta decide if its worth trying..

[Jylly18]

If it was only a year old, and from a good breeder, could the pit bull be returned to the breeder for the 9 months?

[ChaseandZahrasmom]

I was thinking the same thing about contacting the breeder for help, given the circumstance I would hope this would be an option.

I know you should ban the deed not the breed but I still have a hard time with Pit Bulls, they scare me. It could be the loose ones once that I have met in our neighborhood one morning that backed me into our house and probably would have bitten me had Chase and Zahra not have been in the yard and started making noise and distracted them. I know that could happen with any dog but maybe it is the reputation that made that so much scarier to me.

Also, does your apartment or housing association (I don't know if you own or rent) have any breed bans? This could be something to consider also.

I know what a tough situation you are in and you want to do the best thing for your brother-in-law, you are being smart to think this through.



If it was only a year old, and from a good breeder, could the pit bull be returned to the breeder for the 9 months?

[agilebasenji]

Also, does your apartment or housing association (I don't know if you own or rent) have any breed bans? This could be something to consider also.


Your homeowner's insurance is also something to check.

I think that before you decide, the bully breeder should be consulted. Even if you're leaning on taking the dog in. How would/could you deal with things if the two dogs did not get along? Also, is the dog neutered? Personally, I'm not sure I'd take an unneutered male bully into my home. Crate trained?

[Ninabeana26]

Your homeowner's insurance is also something to check.

I think that before you decide, the bully breeder should be consulted. Even if you're leaning on taking the dog in. How would/could you deal with things if the two dogs did not get along? Also, is the dog neutered? Personally, I'm not sure I'd take an unneutered male bully into my home. Crate trained?

Our apartment complex does not have breed limits. I checked that before I even gave this idea the time of day.

The dog is NOT neutered, which is another reason why I am not so quick to say yes. Dallas will only be 5 months by then so also not neutered & having two un-neutered dogs in the house kind of scares me! I'm afraid they could be more aggressive towards one another, even though Dallas will still be so young. If the bully decided to be aggressive with Dallas I would fear that I'd be uncapable of stopping them since I am not strong enough. Mark says he could certainly handle the pitt but he also cannot be there 24/7!

He is crate trained, stays in his during the day while Justin is working. I actually think he sleeps in his crate as well.

He contacted the breeder befiore contacting us and the breeder said that as of right now she didn't think she'd have extra room for him with her own dogs to manage. She said to contact him about 3 weeks prior to deployment & see if that has changed but she also said it's unlikely. She said she'd take the dog back all together though so...I'm not sure what is going on with that...

[Mia]

Would Midge consider keeping Dallas with her for the next 9 months until the pitbull is gone? I know that would be hard to be away from the new pup for that long, but it might be a solution to help keep your borther in law's pictbull in the family...or I could even see if we could take Dallas here for the 9 months, and then you could come and visit anytime :)

[Ninabeana26]

Would Midge consider keeping Dallas with her for the next 9 months until the pitbull is gone? I know that would be hard to be away from the new pup for that long, but it might be a solution to help keep your borther in law's pictbull in the family...or I could even see if we could take Dallas here for the 9 months, and then you could come and visit anytime :)

See I thought about that for about...1 second. But I don't think it is fair to Mark, me nor Dallas to send him away when it's HIS home you know? Plus. after getting him I can almost guarantee that I couldn't live without him for 9 whole months.

If I were to take the pitt it would be on a trail run to see how he reacts & if he has any aggression towards Dallas, or even me or Mark, then I will be forced to put him somewhere else. Problem is, if this happens, where would he go?!

There is just so many aspects to consider. It's frustrating too because when it comes down to it they could be best buds & not have any issues at all...but then they could try to kill each other & so it's a huge risk either way...

[renaultf1]

I have another idea...
Could you have Mark's brother ship the dog to you at least a month early. That way you could have some time to see if there are problems and the dog could go back to Mark if there are problems. If the breeder is willing to take the dog back like has been said, Mark's brother has an out if the dog comes back. Granted Dallas will only be 2.5 months at the time.

Yes it would be an outlay of cash for Mark's brother to do it, especially if the dog had to go back, but I don't think I could make a snap, permanent decision that could affect my household for 9 months without giving the dog a try without an "out" for myself...especially when I didn't know the dog.

The only other thing I would work out in advance is if you don't give it a trial period and decide to take the dog, if it doesn't work out I would be sure the brother gives you the breeder info...especially if he plans on giving it back if he can't find a foster before his deployment.

Tough one.

[Barklessdog]

I would think the basenji would challenge the pit right off the bat to determine who is the boss, which may not fare well for the basenji.

[Craigh]

No way I'd consider doing this without at least a couple week trial run.

I know how my neutered male Basenji would have reacted to a situation like this - and the outcome wouldn't have been good.

[wizard]

I might also suggest asking the brother if he will get the pit neutered now.

[tanza]

IMO, I think it would be a big mistake to bring an "in-tact" dog of any breed into your home, let alone a bully, especially with a puppy bitch... and take the chance she comes in season??... and with your statements about Rocky... I for one would never chance it....

[BasenjiDiva]

A couple more ideas: Around many military bases there are people or groups who are sympathetic to the plight of deploying service members with pets. There are often people out there who will foster their pets. Best case scenerio would be to see if there is a pit bull rescue group near his current base who has a member who will foster his dog.(He might be able to find that info on the internet.) The Humane Societies and animal control facilities are overburdened when whole military units deploy and so they might be willing to help find a solution rather than end up with another animal. If your BIL checks with the local humane society, they may be able to point him in the right direction of people who might foster. If he did get the dog from a responsible breeder, that breeder may want to have a say so in where that dog goes....especially in view of the potential of how a pit bull can be misused.

Follow your intuition: If you feel too uneasy about this DON'T do it! Your responsibility is to your puppy and your family.

This is the point where I am going to get up on a soap box and open myself up as a target: 1st let me explain that my husband was career Army and was a helicopter pilot in Vietnam and Iraq. I was an Army nurse when DH and I met and married. My father was career Army. My two brothers and 2 of DH's brothers were in the Army. I currently live within a few miles of a military base. I say all that to show that I am very much in support of and sympathetic to service members. Having said that, let me also say that it is irresponsible for anyone, especially a soldier who knows he will be deployed, to get a pet without making arrangements BEFORE he gets the pet for that pet's care when he is deployed. The local rescue groups, humane society, pound, etc get absolutely hammered with these animals when units get deployed. It just isn't right that YOU have to feel bad if you don't want to take the risk and responsibility for a pit bull. Your BIL should have asked you if you'd take it BEFORE he got it! I don't plan on anything happening to me or DH but we made contingency plans before we got Cory.

Just my humble opinion....Now I'll step aside and run for cover.

Pat

[tanza]

A couple more ideas: Around many military bases there are people or groups who are sympathetic to the plight of deploying service members with pets. There are often people out there who will foster their pets. Best case scenerio would be to see if there is a pit bull rescue group near his current base who has a member who will foster his dog.(He might be able to find that info on the internet.) The Humane Societies and animal control facilities are overburdened when whole military units deploy and so they might be willing to help find a solution rather than end up with another animal. If your BIL checks with the local humane society, they may be able to point him in the right direction of people who might foster. If he did get the dog from a responsible breeder, that breeder may want to have a say so in where that dog goes....especially in view of the potential of how a pit bull can be misused.

Follow your intuition: If you feel too uneasy about this DON'T do it! Your responsibility is to your puppy and your family.

This is the point where I am going to get up on a soap box and open myself up as a target: 1st let me explain that my husband was career Army and was a helicopter pilot in Vietnam and Iraq. I was an Army nurse when DH and I met and married. My father was career Army. My two brothers and 2 of DH's brothers were in the Army. I currently live within a few miles of a military base. I say all that to show that I am very much in support of and sympathetic to service members. Having said that, let me also say that it is irresponsible for anyone, especially a soldier who knows he will be deployed, to get a pet without making arrangements BEFORE he gets the pet for that pet's care when he is deployed. The local rescue groups, humane society, pound, etc get absolutely hammered with these animals when units get deployed. It just isn't right that YOU have to feel bad if you don't want to take the risk and responsibility for a pit bull. Your BIL should have asked you if you'd take it BEFORE he got it! I don't plan on anything happening to me or DH but we made contingency plans before we got Cory.

Just my humble opinion....Now I'll step aside and run for cover.

Pat

No need to run for cover, very well put.... your entire post....

[Ninabeana26]

I might also suggest asking the brother if he will get the pit neutered now.

He won't get it neutered because he is going to breed him upon returning from Iraq. He has been asked by someone who received their pitt from the same blood line to be the stud. He told me he got permission from the breeder and everything...

[Ninabeana26]

IMO, I think it would be a big mistake to bring an "in-tact" dog of any breed into your home, let alone a bully, especially with a puppy bitch... and take the chance she comes in season??... and with your statements about Rocky... I for one would never chance it....

Our B is a male, not female. We don't have a female in the house. Our male puppy will come home THIS THURSDAY. Thus, he'll be with us only about 3 months when we would (if we do) get the bully.

[Ninabeana26]

This is the point where I am going to get up on a soap box and open myself up as a target: 1st let me explain that my husband was career Army and was a helicopter pilot in Vietnam and Iraq. I was an Army nurse when DH and I met and married. My father was career Army. My two brothers and 2 of DH's brothers were in the Army. I currently live within a few miles of a military base. I say all that to show that I am very much in support of and sympathetic to service members. Having said that, let me also say that it is irresponsible for anyone, especially a soldier who knows he will be deployed, to get a pet without making arrangements BEFORE he gets the pet for that pet's care when he is deployed. The local rescue groups, humane society, pound, etc get absolutely hammered with these animals when units get deployed. It just isn't right that YOU have to feel bad if you don't want to take the risk and responsibility for a pit bull. Your BIL should have asked you if you'd take it BEFORE he got it! I don't plan on anything happening to me or DH but we made contingency plans before we got Cory.

Just my humble opinion....Now I'll step aside and run for cover.

Pat

Thank for the well-put opinion. I completely agree! When he told us he got the bully the first thing I asked was "where are you going to send him if you get deployed?!?" He, at the time, was living with a girl (also owner of a bully pitt) & so said that she obviously could watch him in their home. Well, they recently (about 3 months ago) had a nasty break up so her watching him is out of the question now. He was also thinking of using his mom (since she currently has a dog as well) but she said no because she's in the process of splitting from her fiance so it's too sticky of a situation for her to take him. Their other brother is also a Marine, who lives in the barrack's, thus he also cannot take him.

[renaultf1]

He won't get it neutered because he is going to breed him upon returning from Iraq. He has been asked by someone who received their pitt from the same blood line to be the stud. He told me he got permission from the breeder and everything...

So I guess that deal will be off if he has to get rid of the dog...

So basically he wants to either keep the dog intact or get rid of the dog...If he wants to keep the dog (because the dog is his baby), he'd have better luck with finding someone to take it if he gets it neutered.

[JazzysMom]

My niece has three pit bulls -- all WONDERFUL dogs. She has two neutered males and one female.

The dogs all got along fairly well initially. Her older boy had some issues with the younger one, but nothing that couldn't be handled with a stern voice {"hey!" or "Knock it off" kind of thing}. Most of their issues revolved around the spayed female, who is younger than both males and best buddy to both.

Then suddenly.. one day... The older boy went after the younger in a BIG way when he tried to lie down beside the girl. It took three adults to stop their fighting -- during which BTW, neither dog made any attempt to bite at the humans; their aggression does NOT transfer to humans, none of them have ever shown any signs of aggression or dominance or even really irritation with people -- and ever since that fight the dogs cannot be together at all.
They have to play this silly dog juggle -- one of the boys has to stay in the kitchen at all times, they cannot be outside together, they cannot be in the car together unless crated and in different seats.
It's crazy -- and they are both nuetered.

I have no problem with pits as a breed; I rather like them. But I would NEVER have two males, EVER, because I understand that male/male aggression is not uncommon with the breed, and these dogs are STRONG. They will NOT lose a fight and the real fights are very difficult to stop.

I love my nieces dogs; I enjoy being at her place with them, but I'd never have them come stay here with me, not with Keoki here. No way.

I'd think long and hard about this decision. I know you're in a tough position.
You need to hope for the best, but be prepared for the worst.

Do you have a way to keep them separate from one another if they do not get along?

[BasenjiDiva]

Maybe the person who wants to use him for stud will foster him.

Something else for you to think about: If you haven't gotten your puppy yet, your breeder may definitely not approve of one of his/her pups being placed into a home with a pit bull. Technically...it isn't the same home your breeder approved.

Pat

[Ninabeana26]

I just don't think it is looking good for Razr or Justin. I'm having such strong doubts that I just don't feel like it's right...

[agilebasenji]

Okay, so you have a one year old potentially dog-aggressive powerful dog who is still in the process of maturing that you are think of fostering for 9 months. In that 9 months, the dog will mature and attitudes towards other dogs may change from what it is now. You already know this dog is "territorial". (whatever that means. barks at strangers? lunges uncontrollably at people walking down the street? Growls at strange dogs but is fine with people? Is a resource guarder? etc) You don't know how this dog is with puppies and, because of his age, how he is now may change. May change drastically. May stay the same. The owner refuses to neuter the dog.

You are getting a basenji boy puppy that you have planned for and waited for. You are planning on socializing him and making sure all his experiences with dogs and people over the next 12 months are wonderful to ensure a confident social pup. If you're planning on showing you won't want to neuter you dog either. If you're planning on doing agility (or perhaps coursing) and have read Dr Zink's article on early neuters, you probably won't want to neuter until the growth plates close (12-14 months in a basenji-sized dog).

So you are planning on having 2 intact male dogs in your household. Both breeds are known to sometimes be same-sex aggressive. One dog is 3 (?) times the size of the other.

Did I lay all that out correctly?

[agilebasenji]

I just don't think it is looking good for Razr or Justin. I'm having such strong doubts that I just don't feel like it's right...

Okay, you know your answer then. Are you looking for help in how to say "This just isn't right for us right now"? I know saying "no" to family can be difficult. Here's the thing: You have doubts. And if you do foster Razr, and something awful happens, how would you feel? Could you forgive Razr/Justin/yourself/your spouse?

[tanza]

So I guess that deal will be off if he has to get rid of the dog...

So basically he wants to either keep the dog intact or get rid of the dog...If he wants to keep the dog (because the dog is his baby), he'd have better luck with finding someone to take it if he gets it neutered.

Or he can have him collected and the sperm frozen if it is that important that he be used at stud. (yes that costs) but then he can at least get him neutered.

[Ninabeana26]

I think the chances of hurting Razr/Dallas or even Mark or I just makes this decision more clear. I don't want to hurt my family because of his brothers dog. I love Pitts and would love to take care of one for 9 months but I just see it right now as too big of a risk. I have studied up on Bs before getting ours but I don't know enough about pitts to really know what to expect and really even if I did know everything I could about pitts, I could never be sure that he & Dallas wouldn't fight & potentially really harm one of them...probably Dallas since he is outweighed by Razr big time. We're talking 15-20 lbs (Dallas will still be a pup) to a 100 lb. dog. Ugh. I just feel so bad for Justin (BIL) & the dog...

[WBL]

Here are some links to fosters for military pets. I am sorry you are stuck between a rock and a hard place and so is your BIL. Unfortunately this is why I feel single people in the military shouldn't get a pet, I know its bad to say even with me being in the military, but with the world today unfortunately we run into situations like these. I hope the below links help you and your BIL

http://operationnoblefoster.org/

https://www.netpets.org/militarypet/foster.php

[tanza]

Our B is a male, not female. We don't have a female in the house. Our male puppy will come home THIS THURSDAY. Thus, he'll be with us only about 3 months when we would (if we do) get the bully.

Sorry, my mistake... for some reason I thought you were getting a girl puppy...
But I agree that it would be really "chancey" to bring in a third male that is not neutered with to other males..

[tanza]

Sorry, my mistake... for some reason I thought you were getting a girl puppy...
But I agree that it would be really "chancey" to bring in a third male that is not neutered with to other males..

Gezzz, I will get it right yet... :confused: ... To have a baby pup (not sure when you are planning or if you are) that is not neutered and bring in an intact adult bully... is just asking for problems...
And what in the world would you do if you did take him, your brother was gone (deployed) and you could not keep him?... What would you do with him..?

[Ninabeana26]

And what in the world would you do if you did take him, your brother was gone (deployed) and you could not keep him?... What would you do with him..?

Yea that's another huge concern. I have given it so much though & I just really don't see how it is possible for us to take him. It's too risky.

[nala121498]

Personally I have no experience with any of this but wanted to support you and your decsion. I think "going with your instincts" is the best way to go. You've weighed the options and certainly your heart is in the right place...I know it's a tough decision.
I hope he can find a solution...((Hugs)) to you both.

[BasenjiDiva]

I listened to a speaker on personal safety one time who made the astute observation that humans are the only animals that deliberately ignore their instincts and teach their children to ignore their instincts. We get so wrapped up in politeness and not wanting to hurt feelings that we ignore our instincts - the ones meant to save us from danger. We see groups of people hanging out on the street who strike us as being potentially dangerous but we don't cross the street because we don't want to appear rude. Our children don't want to hug wierd Uncle Joe because he gives them the creeps and we tell them to hug him anyway. I could be wrong but I sense that you are more than a little uncomfortable about this situation. And it doesn't seem like your BIL is making any concessions. Is his Pit Bull so special that his genes really need to be added to the pool?

And here is a prophetic coincidence: This morning after my earlier posts, I visited with a friend who told me that she and her husband were going somewhere when they spotted a man walking a pretty dog that looked vaguely familiar to her. (She had only seen a photograph of our basenji). She stopped and introducted herself to the man and asked about the dog. He told her that his dog was a basenji (probably purebred) and had been recently rescued from the local humane society just hours before being euthanized. The dog, who bears numerous scars and is recovering from malnutrition, had been used as a bait dog to train pit bulls for fighting! When the pit bull owners got wind that there was going to be a raid, they took off and left the basenji to fend for itself.

To hear this anecdote today just seemed so coincidental. A puppy is just no match to a pit bull. I'm not maligning the breed. I just don't think this sounds safe.

Whatever you decide, we all hope everything turns out well for you and your pup.

Pat

[agilebasenji]

To hear this anecdote today just seemed so coincidental. A puppy is just no match to a pit bull. I'm not maligning the breed. I just don't think this sounds safe.



Actually I don't think this thread has been anti-bully at all. As a realitive newbie here, I'm pleased to see that. I think people would have different advice if the dog were an 8 year old spayed female bully that loved other dogs and people and had a mellow/laidback attitude. But that's not the situation.

(aside: Digital and I went to the invitational in 2006 with a friend and her female staffie bull. A lovely sweet dog that, as far as I saw, never even looked at anyone/dog sideways. I wouldn't hesistate to take that dog into my home.)

[tanza]

I just love Staffie bulls.... at a show many years ago, we were parked next to someone with about 6 of them.. they were all so sweet... many breeds get a bad rap... and it is brought on by humans.....

[JazzysMom]

I discussed this situation with my niece -- the one who owns the three pits and who is a HUGE advocate for the breed, working with rescue assoc. etc. -- and her immediate response w/out any hesitation was, "That is a disaster waiting to happen."

[JazzysMom]

{AND she is wondering why the h*ll he feels the need to breed his dog when there are literally thousands in shelters across the country}

[MaxBooBooBear]

Do you guys know that Amy Winehouse song?? Something like--they want me to go to rehab, and I say NO NO NO.....well--here's another version--you want me to take your pitt bull?? I say NO NO NO. :) I can only speak for myself--I would never be able to take in anyone's unneutered pitt bull--or probably any pitt bull. And have met some sweet pitt bulls--but I would just be too afraid--especially if he remains unneutered--and especially with a small young B--and in an apartment--the quarters are too close for everyone--but this is just my opinion.

[tanza]

Yea that's another huge concern. I have given it so much though & I just really don't see how it is possible for us to take him. It's too risky.

I think that you are making a responsible decision... and while it is hard to say No... it is IMO the right thing to do...

[Ninabeana26]

Yea I think I'm making the best decision for my family's sake. I would love to give Dallas a canine friend to play with but...it's just too risky since I don't know the dog well enough to know what will happen.

[dmcarty]

ok folks - here is another possibility - get on this wonderful thing called the internet - there are a lot of groups offereing to help in many ways service people serving overseas - some of them are willing to foster dogs.

Take a few min and look up programs in Florida and see what you can find out. You might be suprised at what help is there.

[dmcarty]

here is another link

http://www.guardianangelsforsoldierspet.org/fostering_a_pet.htm

[tanza]

ok folks - here is another possibility - get on this wonderful thing called the internet - there are a lot of groups offereing to help in many ways service people serving overseas - some of them are willing to foster dogs.

Take a few min and look up programs in Florida and see what you can find out. You might be suprised at what help is there.

I think the dog is in California where her brother is stationed?... and Ninabean26 is in Fla......

[JazzysMom]

ok folks - here is another possibility - get on this wonderful thing called the internet - there are a lot of groups offereing to help in many ways service people serving overseas - some of them are willing to foster dogs.

Take a few min and look up programs in Florida and see what you can find out. You might be suprised at what help is there.


I'm still thinking he's going to have to get that dog nuetered before anyone will take him on......

[Ninabeana26]

Yes I'm in Florida & he is stationed in California. He looked into a few programs after I mentioned them to him but upon checking he was told that they would not take pittbulls. At least the one he checked although I'm hoping we can find one that will take pitts. CA is kind of anti-pittbull though...unfortunate for him :(

[tanza]

Yes I'm in Florida & he is stationed in California. He looked into a few programs after I mentioned them to him but upon checking he was told that they would not take pittbulls. At least the one he checked although I'm hoping we can find one that will take pitts. CA is kind of anti-pittbull though...unfortunate for him :(

I think that Jazzysmom said it best, will most likely be no chance unless he is neutered.... and I fully agree.... I don't really think that CA is anti-pit... some cities/counties, but no more then other places...

[JazzysMom]

Maybe someone at one of these places can help him:

Pit Bull Rescue Central, shelters: http://pbrc.net/webapp/cgi-bin/orgs_by_state.cgi/5aa0211785d2c6092e33714bd0a54569#C

http://www.netpets.com/dogs/dogresc/breeds/dogpit_ter.html

http://www.scpaw.org/pages/mission.html

[Ninabeana26]

Thanks for all the info everyone! I've talked to him about some of his options & I have forwarded all of the websites. Hopefully someone can take Razr & he won't have to give him up. Although it does look like he may have to neuter whether he likes it or not...

[ChaseandZahrasmom]

Nina,

I know what a tough decision that was for you to make, do not ever doubt yourself you are doing the right thing.

I know it was hard to tell your brother-in-law no, but you are helping him find other options which he needs to look into and hopefully one of those will work out.

[wizard]

Ninabeana -- I'm echoing ChaseandZahra and others here but TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS on this because the p.b. certainly will pick up on them. Have your brother contact the pitbull rescue societies as well as the military support groups. It's tough I know.