anyone know this breeder?

[JazzysMom]

Have any of you ever heard of a breeder named Cindy Clausen, in the PNW?

[tanza]

Have any of you ever heard of a breeder named Cindy Clausen, in the PNW?

Not a BCOA member... and I have not heard the name before

[JazzysMom]

Okay,

There's a woman in my area selling her 3 yo boy due to a change in family status, and the breeder listed on the paperwork is Cindy Clausen. The owner doesn't have a lot more info -- nor do I as I only spoke briefly with her on the phone -- because the dog was purchased at a {dirty little} farm/pet supply place in a nearby town.
Just hoping someone knew of the breeder......

[Janneke]

Maybe this is helpfull:

http://www.petshoppuppies.com/report.asp?ID=PETSHOP11170

http://www.petshoppuppies.com/report.asp?ID=48A0896

[JazzysMom]

Makes me curious... but this says she is/was in KS and we are in WA. Not that it couldn't be the same lady.....

I'm going to keep digging here; thanks.

[Janneke]

I don't know if it is the same lady...

I just googled: Cindy Claesen basenji: no hits
and then: Cindy Claesen puppies..

[sharronhurlbut]

The dog came from Farmland, a pet store that sells companion animals.
SIGH!
I do believe this is the KS basenji.
I called as this b is for sale in the local paper.
They want to "recoop" some of the $$ they spent to get him.
So, I left my phone number, BRAT info and asked them please to give my contact info to the folks they sell the basenji to..
Sigh.

[tanza]

Yup, sound to me the pup came from a puppymiller in KS.... I would guess the same person.. and the pet store got the pup/pups they sell from this person...

[JazzysMom]

ARGH!!! I really HATE this store. It is very small, dirty, over-crowded inside and out with all kinds of stuff -- from farm supplies to picnic tables. I went inside once to buy some crickets for a frog we had, and was claustrophobic as soon as I went in. They have a sign outside that always has a list of puppies available, always a multitude of breeds.
When the woman told me she got the dog there 3 yrs ago, my heart sank.

Man, I hope the right person calls her about this dog. From her description, he sounds like a really great pet.

[sharronhurlbut]

I am hoping they will decide to turn him over to BRAT.
Fingers crossed, that will be what happens.
I also wish we could get that place shut down.
I know the Humane society is over there a lot!

[tanza]

I agree, with luck they will turn the B over to rescue.....

[JazzysMom]

I am hoping they will decide to turn him over to BRAT.
Fingers crossed, that will be what happens.
I also wish we could get that place shut down.
I know the Humane society is over there a lot!


Me too, on both counts.

I've been wracking my brain - -how can I scare up $400 to buy him and turn him over, but..... there's just no way.

I know many of you see and deal with such things regularly, esp. those involved in rescue, but this is the first time I've had one so close and it is B-U-G-G-I-N-G
me that I can't help this dog find a great forever home.:(

[Janneke]

Me too, on both counts.

I've been wracking my brain - -how can I scare up $400 to buy him and turn him over, but..... there's just no way.

I know many of you see and deal with such things regularly, esp. those involved in rescue, but this is the first time I've had one so close and it is B-U-G-G-I-N-G
me that I can't help this dog find a great forever home.:(

I would also go crazy when I would know of such a case! Hope the owner will do the right thing!

I'm so happy that it isn't allowed in the Netherlands to sell puppies in petstores.. (not that there aren't puppymills... :mad: )

[tanza]

Me too, on both counts.

I've been wracking my brain - -how can I scare up $400 to buy him and turn him over, but..... there's just no way.

I know many of you see and deal with such things regularly, esp. those involved in rescue, but this is the first time I've had one so close and it is B-U-G-G-I-N-G
me that I can't help this dog find a great forever home.:(

Also with any luck, someone that is responsible will buy this guy... and at least he is neutered... so that is a good thing... and seems like they are letting him go due to circumstances.. not because of behavior issues... of course the fact that they would rather "recoop" money is a poor excuse to not just turn over to rescue...

[TuckerVA]

I'll donate to the cause. $50 from me. Anyone else?

[BasenjiDiva]

We just had a friend die and instead of flowers, they requested that a donation be made to a cause relating to animals. So...I'll donate $50 also.

Pat

[TuckerVA]

I guess this means we only need $300 more to get this dog out of hock.

After seeing the Oprah show, it's REALLY hard for me to not go out there and start adopting every dog I see. However, I simply don't have the resources at this time but rest assured, when I DO have the resources I'll have a backyard full of B's! I have $50 bucks, though, so I'll happily donate to the cause of getting this dog into BRAT's hands.

[Tayda_Lenny]

I'll donate $50 also!

[JazzysMom]

Well, don't forget me!! I can kick in $50. So that is $150...but by the time we trickle up to $400, he may be gone....or maybe, just maybe she will have called Sharron back and turned him over!! {fingers and toes all crossed!}

[Tayda_Lenny]

we're up to $200 now, right? I think jazzys mom and i posted simultaneously...

[TuckerVA]

That's actually $200. We're halfway there. :)

We have me, TuckerVA
BasenjiDiva
Tayda_Lenny
JazzysMom

We have BRAT represented here. Can this person tell us how we can setup a donation link via PayPal for this dog on BasenjiRescue.org somehow? Either that or tell us where to send the checks?

Does anyone know how to get in touch with Sharon Hurlbut? Perhaps she can broker the deal with the person selling the dog since she's already contacted them?

It feels good to be DOING.

[tanza]

That's actually $200. We're halfway there. :)

We have me, TuckerVA
BasenjiDiva
Tayda_Lenny
JazzysMom

We have BRAT represented here. Can this person tell us how we can setup a donation link via PayPal for this dog on BasenjiRescue.org somehow? Either that or tell us where to send the checks?

And you can always call and "offer" the 200 instead of trying to get the entire 400.00, they might be willing to do it for that price

[Ninabeana26]

I really wish I could help but $50 is a bit steep for me right now. If some sort of account is set up I could probably chip in like $10-15. Sorry it can't be more!

[chiya]

Cindy is a BYB.
She sells a sh*t load of puppies all over the country.
Since she is irresponsible and does NOT take her dogs back.
A ton of dogs she bred ended up in Colorado Basenji Rescues.
We are constantly re-homing her dogs here in CO...very frustrating indeed.

[Quercus]

Cindy is a BYB.
She sells a sh*t load of puppies all over the country.
Since she is irresponsible and does NOT take her dogs back.
A ton of dogs she bred ended up in Colorado Basenji Rescues.
We are constantly re-homing her dogs here in CO...very frustrating indeed.


Careful Steffie....you might hurt somebody's feelings! No bad talking breeders, no matter how many of their dogs you have rescued.....

<dripping with sarcasm>

off to slap my own hands....

[ChaseandZahrasmom]

Let me know if you guys set up an account, I can chip in $10 or so, like Nina $50.00 is steep for me right now (My GI Bill is about to run out so I will soon have to start paying for college so I am saving where I can!). Let me know, I would like to help.

[LiveWWSD]

Ditto for me as well. :)

[mauigirl]

$10-$15 from me.

[mauigirl]

So we're at $250 or so. Try offering that.

[JazzysMom]

Well, I need to know first that there's a way to set this up and actually have money available before even attempting to set up a deal. I mean, what if I call and she accepts the $250, and for whatever reason the money doesn't come through? Not a chance I can afford to take.

I'm going to email Sharron to see if BRAT has a system or can come up with a system. I have a Paypal account, but can't assume that everyone wants to send their money to my private account. *I* know I'm trustworthy, but let's face it...you all don't.
Let's see if/when I hear from her, and then if it's feasible, we can call and make the offer.

[TuckerVA]

I have paypal also. Perhaps we can use the brat paypal donation link and just specify what it is for. I think Paypal allows you to make some notes when you submit a payment. At least I'm pretty sure it can be setup that way.

All we need to know is where to send the money. :)

[JazzysMom]

I have paypal also. Perhaps we can use the brat paypal donation link and just specify what it is for. I think Paypal allows you to make some notes when you submit a payment. At least I'm pretty sure it can be setup that way.

All we need to know is where to send the money. :)

I've emailed Sharron and hope to hear something very soon!

I'd really love to see this happen.

[TuckerVA]

If Sharon or someone can contact BRAT and let them know we're coming, they can, I presume, simply give us a code (and I don't mean something from the Ovaltine Secret Decoder, something like "Pausin' on Clausin!") for the particuliar deal and let us know what it is. The donation to BRAT via credit card (through Network for Good) allows you to designate what the donation is for.

It reads like this once you click the "Donate Now" button:

"Designation (Optional)
To designate your donation for a specific fund or purpose, please enter a description of how you'd like your donation to be used."

I think this would be pretty simple. :)

[Quercus]

Just so you guys know...I am pretty sure BRAT has an absolutely no purchase rule for rescuing dogs. So you may have to go about this a slightly different way, and have a non-BRAT related person purchase the dog, and then give it to BRAT.

If BRAT got into the position of purchasing dogs, it could lead down a slippery slope of people holding their dogs hostage until rescue met their price, kwim? In fact, I think people that are surrendin dogs are encouraged to make a donation to help cover the cost of vetting and such.

I am sure Sharron will clear this up. But I though I would give you a heads up.

[tanza]

And I still think you all if determined to buy this dog, call and offer a lower price....

[JazzysMom]

I am willing to offer the lower price, but I need to have the money at hand in case she accepts the offer. I don't have $200 spare in my pocket to cover it.

And I have a friend lined up to "buy" the dog; I didn't think Sharron {BRAT} would actually be able to take that step.

[Tayda_Lenny]

This may seem archaic - but can we not just all send you checks in the mail?

[JazzysMom]

This may seem archaic - but can we not just all send you checks in the mail?

I have no problem with that personally except if the checks wind up lost in the mail {that is on my mind because in the last two weeks I've gotten three pieces of mail that was addressed to people who don't even live in my town; one was for a person in CA and I live in WA! That one was stuck to the flap of another envelope. }.

And, most people, I'm sure, may be reluctant to send money to someone who is, in reality, a stranger.

I suppose today I will call the gal, see if the dog is still available, tell her I may have a potential buyer, ask if she would consider a reduced price.

I'll let you know.....

[tanza]

I have no problem with that personally except if the checks wind up lost in the mail {that is on my mind because in the last two weeks I've gotten three pieces of mail that was addressed to people who don't even live in my town; one was for a person in CA and I live in WA! That one was stuck to the flap of another envelope. }.

And, most people, I'm sure, may be reluctant to send money to someone who is, in reality, a stranger.

I suppose today I will call the gal, see if the dog is still available, tell her I may have a potential buyer, ask if she would consider a reduced price.

I'll let you know.....

That would be a good approach, IMO. If not available, maybe she will tell you who might have him.. and if not placed, maybe would be ready to take a lesser price. Especially if not neutered, as this will be extra cost..

[TuckerVA]

I can overnight a check as soon as need be. Like you, I am an honest person but I know the reality is noone here knows me from a tree in the yard therefore trust is certainly an issue. :) I DO have the money to cover the cost of the dog, so if she'll take credit, I will front the money if it's $250 or below. If the trust fails, then so be it. I will have made a donation to a cause that I feel is worthy. I could probably setup my paypal to accept payment as well, but I'm not sure how that works.

[Tayda_Lenny]

Well, personally I would not mind sending you a check. I mean, the way I see it, we are all just trying to save this dog - and I like to think people are trustworthy. Particularly since some of us have been on this forum for a while now... I mean, if a first time poster was heading this up, I would be hesitant, but I know you in particular have been here for some time, as have i, so I am fine with it.

But if someone has a faster way, I'm for it. I know with paypal, the payer does not pay an extra fee, but the recipient does incur a fee...

[JazzysMom]

I know my paypal accepts payments, only because I sold a guy some stuff once and he payed via PayPal. I don't even know how it works, LOL, he asked for my account name and voila! the money magically appeared.

I'll call her later today and get back to you all before we decide if we need to go ahead and try this.

[gbroxon]

JazzysMom, are you sure BRAT will accept him? (Admittedly, I don't know how that process works.) Or are you willing to foster him 'til you find a home for him? Or give him a forever home yourself? (Sorry if I missed how this all was going to work.)

I, too, would be willing to kick in $50.

Kudos to you, JazzysMom!

[TuckerVA]

Yeah, we just need to get on the ball with this. I know everyone involved is trying their best. Looks like with gbroxyn and others who are willing to pitch in, we're closer to $300. If not, I'd be happy to make up the difference once we're all settled if $300 makes the difference to the seller. I hope the dog is okay...

We just need to finalize the method behind our madness. :) AKA, love for our elite breed! ;)

[JazzysMom]

JazzysMom, are you sure BRAT will accept him? (Admittedly, I don't know how that process works.) Or are you willing to foster him 'til you find a home for him? Or give him a forever home yourself? (Sorry if I missed how this all was going to work.)

I, too, would be willing to kick in $50.

Kudos to you, JazzysMom!

Pretty sure -- Sharron has already spoken to the owner, but the owner wants t recoup some of the money they spent buying him.

Doesn't BRAT pretty much take any B that is turned over to them?

[JazzysMom]

Okay, I talked to the woman this morning and she is willing to take $300, but no less.

So.... next step?

[tanza]

Okay, I talked to the woman this morning and she is willing to take $300, but no less.

So.... next step?

Again, IMO... I would wait it out.... obviously she has no takers to this point. Sad to do, but by paying for this pup, you are supporting her/his behavior of trying to sell the dog

[JazzysMom]

Again, IMO... I would wait it out.... obviously she has no takers to this point. Sad to do, but by paying for this pup, you are supporting her/his behavior of trying to sell the dog

Well, I don't object to her trying to sell him -- her family is breaking up, she doesn't know where she is going to live, she needs to recoup some of the money...... I can see that. The pet store isn't taking him back.

I'd rather do it this way, than to risk her selling him to a bad home.

I think......:confused:

[Tayda_Lenny]

i am ready to send a check or transfter via paypal... just let me know. we should probably start an off-forum conversation about this... for privacy reasons.

[Quercus]

Well, I don't object to her trying to sell him -- her family is breaking up, she doesn't know where she is going to live, she needs to recoup some of the money...... I can see that. The pet store isn't taking him back.

I'd rather do it this way, than to risk her selling him to a bad home.

I think......:confused:

I understand where you are coming from JM. But honestly, there is no way anybody is going to give her $700, IMO.

And, no BRAT won't accept a dog that has bitten humans (at least that is what I have been told repeatedly). So make SURE that you check him out before you pay her.

[TuckerVA]

I adopted Tucker from BRAT and was told he was aggressive and that he bit a child. It was right in BRAT's description of him.

I'm ready to pony up myself. Who's in charge here? ;)

[Ninabeana26]

Wait...this dog bite a human??? Did I miss something?

[TuckerVA]

Noone knows about the dog we're trying to buy and pass along to BRAT. Quercus just said we should check the dog out becuase she's not sure BRAT takes biters. I think they do since they let me adopt one, but maybe things have changed. I dunno.

If your question was directed at me, YES, Tucker has bitten plenty of people (who deserved it)...

[JazzysMom]

I understand where you are coming from JM. But honestly, there is no way anybody is going to give her $700, IMO.

And, no BRAT won't accept a dog that has bitten humans (at least that is what I have been told repeatedly). So make SURE that you check him out before you pay her.

They are only asking $400 in the original ad.

and I wouldn't pick him up w/out visiting first. From what she says -- and I do realize she's trying to re-home him -- he's very friendly,w/kids etc

[JazzysMom]

I adopted Tucker from BRAT and was told he was aggressive and that he bit a child. It was right in BRAT's description of him.

I'm ready to pony up myself. Who's in charge here? ;)

I think if you go to paypal.com, you only need my email address to make a payment via credit card to my account - if you want to do it that way. Then I can transfer the money, I think, to my checking and go from there.

You can email me at adakgirl@gmail.com --that is the address I use for more "public" communication -- I will send you my private email address, through which I use paypal.

BEFORE anyone does ANYTHING, we need to be sure that everyone is on-board with it, AND let me hear back from Sharron to make sure she has the foster home lined up. She said they had one, but I want to double-check before I wind up w/a third dog here:eek: Dh would NEVER go for that!!!

[TuckerVA]

I'm emailing you now. And, yes, I'm on board.

[Tayda_Lenny]

same here. i'm on board, and just emailed you.

[Ninabeana26]

I'm on board as well. Let me know the paypal address...or I will email you actually.

[Quercus]

I adopted Tucker from BRAT and was told he was aggressive and that he bit a child. It was right in BRAT's description of him.

I'm ready to pony up myself. Who's in charge here? ;)

Interesting....I was told they wouldn't. Hmmm....

[BasenjiDiva]

I'm stilll up for my share. I'm getting ready to send you an email to the address shown above to verify.

Pat

[tanza]

Interesting....I was told they wouldn't. Hmmm....

Me too Andrea.. and I know people that have been turned away with Basenjis that are a bite risk.... guess it depends...???

[Quercus]

Me too Andrea.. and I know people that have been turned away with Basenjis that are a bite risk.... guess it depends...???

yeah, I am thinking it depends a lot on the contact person. But from what I have discussed with folks from other all breed rescue groups, there is a HUGE liability for a group who knowingly adopts out a dog that has bitten people before.

[tanza]

yeah, I am thinking it depends a lot on the contact person. But from what I have discussed with folks from other all breed rescue groups, there is a HUGE liability for a group who knowingly adopts out a dog that has bitten people before.

Exactly, this was one of the reasons that BCONC (No. Cal Club) had to stop doing rescue as a club, insurance coverage...

[TuckerVA]

I think it depends.

If not, what is the reason for the 'Bites?' field being included on their rap sheets on the rescue site? Just telling you what I know. BRAT was fully aware that the family fostering Tucker had bite issues with him because that is why they put him up for adoption. They were having a baby and didn't want Tucker to eat it after having bitten a 14 year old kid and Tucker's Dad.

Tucker didn't bite BEFORE they moved and she got pregnant, however, so it could just have been the change in his environment. Either way, they knew and they told me.

Go to the BRAT site and look at the dogs there. Look at Dune, Leo (of Leo and Ruby), Ginger, Bobo, Tahoe and Larry. All listed as biters.

[MacPack]

I just started reading this thread...do you have enough money lined up? If not, I'll chip in the difference to make it happen. On other lists I have been on, people have just put $10 or $20 bill in an envelope and sent it to a total stranger on occasion to help a dog. I don't know of any time it was a scam, just people chipping in a bit when they can to help someone with a need. In this case, getting a nice dog into a new family instead of the pound. Good for you all for getting this rolling!

Anne in Tampa

[JazzysMom]

I'm waiting to hear back from Sharron {BRAT} before moving forward.

You guys are all awesome,though, for jumping on this!

[sharronhurlbut]

Hi all.
I just got back into town.
I know BRAT does not "buy"dogs, so paying for this dog will have to be done by folks who care what happens to him. It can't be BRAT related.
I will take him into BRAT's care once he has been screened by a foster home.
So he does have a place to go.
So, its a matter of discussing this with this "owner" to see what price she will sell him at.
Now, I did send her all the BRAT info and the fees we charge to adopt b's out to folks.
She wouldn't turn him over, so I asked her to take my info and give it to the next family so they could contact me when they had basenji issues.
I need to get up to speed re this being still availible.
You all can send funds where you wish, if someone has a pay pal acct, that would probably be best.
I will catch up this weekend.

[sharronhurlbut]

I just realized how stupid that above post was.
SIGH!
Yes, BRAT does buy puppymill dogs *with the board approval* but that is a case by case thing and not done as a matter of course.
This boy, *if he is still not sold* will have to be done by private members who care about this boys future.
I just felt I needed to post this so we are clear this is a nice group of folks who are donating to this boys fees and not a BRAT project.
Hugs to you all.

[JazzysMom]

Okay, we're set up to go with this boy . . . I have recieved $150.00 thus far into my paypay account.

For those of you who offered to donate, you can donate through PayPal to the email address darrenturner@wavecable.com.

I know I should have held off until I had all funds on hand, but I was also working on my friend's schedule, and she's out of town quite a bit..

Can I get a quick recount of those who intend to donate?

[BasenjiDiva]

I've sent money via Paypal. Hopefully you've heard from them by now.

Pat

[JazzysMom]

I've sent money via Paypal. Hopefully you've heard from them by now.

Pat

Yes, Pat, thanks. I've just gotten notification! :D

[Tayda_Lenny]

I have sent money via paypal also...

[gbroxon]

As have I, and I've received your confirmation e-mail, JazzysMom.

Crossing my fingers that all goes as planned!

[Ninabeana26]

I plan on sending money tomorrow while at work. Although only expect $10 from me. I wish it could be more. Hopefully other people will pull through though so we can save this baby :)

[JazzysMom]

Every penny helps, so we all appreciate every contribution.

PayPal is up to $240, so we're getting there!

I'm getting excited....almost as if I'm bringing this little boy home w/me, LOL, but dh has made it quite clear that I am not! ;-(

[sharronhurlbut]

I have to say that you all are wonderful.
We have the foster home set up for next sat, that is the day of "sale".
I am hopeful we can post some photos soon and give a nice report of this b's temperment.
Hugs to you all.
THANK YOU!

[TuckerVA]

I sent money as well. I presume it was received. I got confirmation from PayPal that it was sent, but nothing else???

[JazzysMom]

I sent money as well. I presume it was received. I got confirmation from PayPal that it was sent, but nothing else???

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I'd emailed you directly.:(

yes, I got your money.Thanks!;)

[Alex]

How much more money is needed? Vanessa and I would like to contribute.

[JazzysMom]

Well, I have $240 now, and am expecting $35 more tomorrow....

So, that'd leave $25 still needed to hit the full $300.

[Alex]

Just sent $25.

[JazzysMom]

Thanks Nina and Alex; your contributions are in.

Now, to get the gal to pin point a time.....

[sharronhurlbut]

We are still set up for this coming sat.
I have someone who will do a short term foster until Lisa, the long term *if needed, foster* is back into town.
JoNell, if your folks are all set, we are!

[JazzysMom]

We are a go for this Saturday afternoon!

I'm taking Keoki and/or Jazz to see how they interact. Hopefully, they'll play well together.
I'm excited!

[TuckerVA]

This is awesome. We should start a sidebar to BRAT where we can do these types of things on a regular basis. I'd certainly like to put money I donate annually to a cause that is 'closer to home' for me - something like this.

:)

Otherwise, I'll just send $$$ to Brat!

[Alex]

This is great news!

We are currently working with BRAT (Sharron) on setting up a more formal process for fundraising for these types of events by BF members.

Please stay tuned for a post from us regarding fundraising.

[sharronhurlbut]

Just a reminder.
BRAT's donations are all tax deductable.
I am happy to help with funding for getting basenjis out of the paper...but it won't be a tax deductable donation.
This is fyi.

[BasenjiDiva]

I hope someone will post a picture of the little guy for us all to see. That would be really great.

Pat

[sharronhurlbut]

I have never tried to post to this forum, not very good on the computer, but maybe the foster home mom can, and give us updates.
Its neat, I am excited to help this boy move to his new home.
I love that feeling.
Hugs to all of you who helped...

[TuckerVA]

If the dog ends up in BRAT's hands, then there will eventually be a picture on the available rescues portion of the site. We'll just need to know his/her name. :)

[sharronhurlbut]

Laugh! Of course.
I will get you all the info once we see this b.
I bet we can get photos from the foster home first.. They are computer smart.
*watch this site, you see this b boy here first* Laugh.

[JazzysMom]

I plan to take my camera and snap photos at pick up. You know I'll have them here by Saturday night!!

Unless....I forget my camera, which with my mind, is a very real possibility!

[tanza]

This is great news!

We are currently working with BRAT (Sharron) on setting up a more formal process for fundraising for these types of events by BF members.

Please stay tuned for a post from us regarding fundraising.

I thought this was "taboo" for this Forum? There are many areas that need fund raising, the Health Endowment for one and also as far as rescue, Medfly is certainly in need of funds. IMO, BRAT gets lots of donations, go look at their financials. You (the adminstration) would not let me post about the girl that MedFly had in southern Ca that needs surgery and they were asking for donations to help her.... That was as needed as you can get and certainly a great cause. I find it a bit hypocritical that if you are going to do fund raising that you are limiting to BRAT

Please note, I am NOT saying that this is not a good cause.... and glad that people would like to help this boy...

[TuckerVA]

While I can see your point, it's still up to each individual to decide how they want to spend their donation money... Perhaps the policy should be changed and a section be added to BF for just that...donations and special needs/suggestions. However, noone should feel pressured to make a donation to ANY organization.

Just because BRAT gets lots of donations doesn't mean people should reconsider a donation to them for another, equally as worthy cause.

I think that people, by nature, are more prone to donate to causes that are more personal for themselves. If you have a child with autism, you'll probably be more prone to donate towards autism charities.

As far as me personally, in this particuliar case, it was a landslide for me. I watched Oprah, it made me really sad, this came up and I decided I wanted to potentially help in saving a dog's life. Cause and effect, I suppose.

Perhaps your concern might be my fault as I was the one who initially volunteered money to this cause. For that I aologize, if I have broken protocol here.

[Alex]

Thank you to everyone who supported and contributed to this fundraiser upto now!

This particular fundraiser was a great effort that brought everyone together and showed the real power of Basenji Forums community. We are proud that we could help. In order to facilitate any future fundraiser activity on Basenji Forums Sharron Hurlbut from BRAT setup a dedicated fundraiser paypal account for Basenji Forums.

That way from now on we will have an official fundraiser account and everyone can feel more comfortable donating their money to and be sure that the money is managed by a trusted third party. This account is not limited to BRAT it will be used for all types of fundraisers initiated by Basenji Forums members. But it will be at our discretion only whether to allow and when to allow these fundraisers.

Fundraising introduces unnecessary complexity and liability for BF staff, so we are very strict and sensitive about that subject. Too many people get scammed and money gets stolen on the internet all the time, hence our cautious nature about doing fundraisers on our forums.

Lets stay on topic here. Tanza if you want to contribute or to discuss this privately with us please send us a private email to admin@basenjiforums.com.

[tanza]

The fact that many of you wanted to help this boy is great for this boy... hopefully he will find his forever home.

[sharronhurlbut]

I just want to say I can see the confusion.
I am a BRAT person.
BUT this $$$ is not BRAT's. Its forum.
Brat doesn't buy dogs from the paper. *puppymills closing is different*
This is a dog, brought to the attention by a forum member, and RESCUED by the forum members after you all decided to help.
This fund will be used for THAT type of thing.
I am not going to be in "charge", but just hold the funds if these does happen again.
So, if someone else wants to bring a basenji who is in need to this venue and
the group decided to rally, as you all have done here, I will collect the funds and keep an accounting for all to see.
Hopefully, I have cleared up MY understanding of this.
Again, I am all for helping the dogs.
What you have done for this little basenji boy is give him a real great break.
He will not be going into an unknowing home..
The folks who get him will be totally knowing that a basenji is not a ****er or lab.
THANK you all for this wonderful gift for this boy.
I am so happy to be part of this group.
So, if this is clear, we can look forward to photos of this little guy and reports from the foster homes he will be in!
Yea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BasenjiDiva]

So as I understand it: This fund can be used not just to help buy a basenji so it can be properly placed BUT we can also designate some of the money for a case such as the one that Pat mentioned, where a rescue organization such as Medfly or Brat has a dog that needs some specialized medical care or surgery?

If so, this certainly seems like a great solution.

Pat

[sharronhurlbut]

Pat, it won't be up to me. I am pretty sure you all have that point. laugh.
I think it will be up to forum Admin and the forum members.

I, for one, think it would be a good thing to help...whatever this group deems worthy. Be it a single dog, or a basenji group who has a special needs.

[Alex]

So as I understand it: This fund can be used not just to help buy a basenji so it can be properly placed BUT we can also designate some of the money for a case such as the one that Pat mentioned, where a rescue organization such as Medfly or Brat has a dog that needs some specialized medical care or surgery?

If so, this certainly seems like a great solution.

Pat
You are absolutely correct. Members will decide which cause to donate to, but it will need to be run by the forum staff first and the fundraising process will be managed by Sharron.

[sharronhurlbut]

I have the foster home all set up for this move tomorrow.
All we have to do is touch bases after you get the dog.
Can you bring him up to Silverdale?
Please post to me at home.
My foster mom will be on standby from 3pm on...

[sharronhurlbut]

Harley, is a big, oversized basenji of very sweet temperment.
The foster family is delighted at his sweetness and loving to ride in the car!
The former owners have done a very nice job socialized him.
I think JoNell will be posting some photos soon.
YOU ALL DID GOOD!
You helped a sweet basenji boy go into a nice basenji smart family.
THANK YOU.

[sharronhurlbut]

I meant to add that JoNell and her friend did a great job, to post this boy to you, and to go get him from the sellers home.
Yea!!!!!!!
A very nice basenji boy we can place in a good home.
Yea!!!!!
You all probably can't tell how happy I am!!!
Hugs to you all.

[sharronhurlbut]

I have the paperwork from the pet shop if anyone wishes to contact me off forum, *unless you want me to put it here..I am thinking maybe not??*
Anyway, the top of the form says BJ's and Guys and in the center of the form, *looks very much like the AKC forms I have seen* says this puppy is registered with the American's Pet Registry.
So, private inquires will be answered.
*go to the BRAT site and click on the Wa person, if you need to contact me...*
Again, hugs to all.

[JazzysMom]

Harley is a VERY SWEET boy, based on my brief meeting with him. My friend and her daughter, who actually drove him to meet the BRAT contact, fell madly in love in just that short time.
She repeatedly said, "If I didn't have such a cranky old fart for a husband, I'd keep him myself." LOL She was so emotional about him, and is hopeful he will find just the right home.

I'll post a couple of photos as soon as I can get them from my phone! Dummy me, forgot to take my real camera.

[JazzysMom]

Oh yeah, and my friend said to tell you all, even though she only "owned" him for a few minutes, she so very much appreciates that there are people out there who will give so freely to help dogs like Harley find good homes.
She sends her deepest appreciation to everyone!

[sharronhurlbut]

I send my deepest thanks to you JoNell!
I would have never considered posting this boy to this venue.
BUT you had the smarts to know that these folks really do care about b's and have helped us get this boy into the "right" home.
So, thank you for all you have done to help one dog.
With rescue, it really IS one dog at a time.
This boy is very lucky.
Thank you.

[Alex]

This is great! Can't wait to see the photos!

Anyone who is interested in contacting Sharron or other BRAT volunteers privately
can find their contact info here: http://www.basenjirescue.org/asp/ScreenersByState.asp

[sharronhurlbut]

Thanks Alex, I have already had a few folks contact me re this boys background.

[JazzysMom]

Sorry I don't have better photos. I can't believe I forgot my camera today.... ugrrr@me:mad: .

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n135/JoNell_63/Harley/0419081637a.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n135/JoNell_63/Harley/0419081638.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n135/JoNell_63/Harley/0419081642.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n135/JoNell_63/Harley/0419081642a.jpg

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n135/JoNell_63/Harley/0419081637.jpg

[sharronhurlbut]

Honey, those photos just didn't come through?

[JazzysMom]

Honey, those photos just didn't come through?

Oh?
Hmm, they show up fine on my computer. Weird.
:confused:

Try this link then: http://s111.photobucket.com/albums/n135/JoNell_63/Harley/

[Ninabeana26]

Aw he is a handsome boy! I'm glad members on the forum were able to come together for the betterment of a basenji :)

[sharronhurlbut]

He is very sweet as well.
The owner who had him did a very good job in socialization of this boy when he was younger.
THANK you all again for helping this boy.

[Duke]

Harley is gorgeous! I'm so happy that he is in good hands. Harley has many angels on his side.

[sharronhurlbut]

Yes, angels in deed!:D
They are all on the forum!
I am trying to get photos for you all to see.
The foster home reports this boy is so sweet.
Wants to sit by everyone, as close as he can be without
being on the persons lap...

She said, Oh, he doesn't do all the "bad" things b's do~
Laugh.
So, giving credit where its due, the first owner did right by this boy.
And you all did great by getting him into rescue.;)
Thank you all again.

[sharronhurlbut]

Check out the latest info on a new post Harley, the forum basenji.

http://www.basenjiforums.com/showthread.php?t=3580