Kinetic Breeding Plans

[lvoss]

We are still waiting for the Fanconi test results for TC but all the other health tests are in and I am getting quite excited about this special litter. This year we are planning a frozen semen litter from our 10 1/2 year old boy Nicky, DC Sherwood's In The Nick of Time SC, RN, LCM, JOR. The dam TC, FC Sunbird Sudnly Follow The Lady SC, will be coming to stay in California to whelp the litter when she comes in season.

For full details and pictures check out our litter's webpage. I have to update the page again today since TC's hip results just posted on OFA.

http://kineticbasenjis.tripod.com/litter.html

[sharronhurlbut]

They will be lovely puppies.
Do let us know if it takes.

[Jarodkjv]

Congratulations, I'm sure you're really excited about this litter coming together.
And I'm happy that TC's health tests are turning out well (not that I expected anything less!)
I'm sure they will produce some amazing puppies.

[lvoss]

Thanks, I am getting more excited each day.

[YodelDogs]

I think I am almost as excited as Lisa about this litter. They should be awesome pups. :D

[LiveWWSD]

Oh so exciting...what beautifull dogs the sire and dam are.
Keep us updated...are you hoping for any specific colours other then the red or blacks....or will that be the most likley with this pair......I only ask because you are the master of inheritable genetics on this board. ;) with this litter, one thing seems certain...another great generation of lure coursers. :D

[lvoss]

We believe that both of Nicky's parent were homozygous for Red, so he should be also. TC is heterozygous for black and we don't know if TC carries tri or not, though I don't think she does. Even if she did, since Nicky does not the only colors we can get are Reds and Black.

[LiveWWSD]

We believe that both of Nicky's parent were homozygous for Red, so he should be also. TC is heterozygous for black and we don't know if TC carries tri or not, though I don't think she does. Even if she did, since Nicky does not the only colors we can get are Reds and Black.

Two beautifull colours :) Good luck with the breeding...keep us updated.

[lvoss]

TC's Fanconi test result is in and she is Probably Clear/Normal. Nicky is also Probably Clear/Normal. TC's owner has also given me a heads up that the girls may come into season early this year. She is hoping that they will hold off since she is planning to go to Nationals and them being in season early could complicate things.

So now I am getting really excited!

[lvoss]

I also just realized how much work I still have to do to get ready for puppies. So I guess I am really getting excited and a little bit of that "how am I going to get everything done" feeling.

[LiveWWSD]

Ah the trials and tribulations of being a good breeder. Good luck with all the planning and the setup for this year......it certainly takes a good amount of your time to bring the next generation into this world. I am getting excited too.....for the winter when you can tell us all about the cute little bundles of trouble. :D

[Schouiffy]

Man Ivoss - I wish I was back home for this new litter. I so adore those little BW puppies.

[lvoss]

TC is really looking pregnant now. She is due on October 31st. She is enjoying life in Southern California with my mom and her boys. She is fitting right in with my mom's all black and white household.:D
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[Kebasmom]

They are all so beautiful. My first show dog in 1978 was a black and white from a breeder in Los Gatos, CA. She was amazing.

[Quercus]

Are you going to bring her to your house to whelp, or will she stay at your mom's?

[lvoss]

We sent TC to my mom's house to whelp because it is much more relaxing for her to be in a house with two boys than in my house with 3 girls who definitely feel she is not pack. My mom is co-breeding the litter. I have already taken time off work so I can fly down and help with the whelping and have planned on several weekends down there including the holidays.

[Quercus]

We sent TC to my mom's house to whelp because it is much more relaxing for her to be in a house with two boys than in my house with 3 girls who definitely feel she is not pack. My mom is co-breeding the litter. I have already taken time off work so I can fly down and help with the whelping and have planned on several weekends down there including the holidays.

Sounds like a great plan :)

[lvoss]

Yeah, TC is really enjoying it. Today was a chilly day in So Cal so my mom got out the jackets to make sure no one was cold on their walk. I think TC's jacket accentuates her belly.
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[LiveWWSD]

What a great jacket... where did those jackets come from, I really like the style.. very simple.

[sharronhurlbut]

She is lovely, hope all goes well and we have puppy pics soon.

[gbroxon]

OMG! I think Magnum is pregnant! He looks very similar to TC's latest picture!

Hold up...I think he's just chubby!

Magnum says: I'm not fat, I'm phat...and a little bit phluffy!

Hope all goes well, Ivoss! Sending best wishes your way!

[lvoss]

What a great jacket... where did those jackets come from, I really like the style.. very simple.
My mom got the jacket from Luxor Basenjis last year. http://www.luxorbasenjis.com/index.html

[lvoss]

Oh my, TC is getting huge! Poor girl is really a petite little thing, and now she looks like a beached Orca whale.

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[sharronhurlbut]

When is she due?

[lvoss]

She is due October 31st.

[sharronhurlbut]

So, she will get a bit bigger?

[Ferox]

Oh she looks enormous!!! How exciting!!

Best of luck with it all, she is beautiful!!

[Janneke]

Haha.. she IS huge.. ;)

I hope the last week won't take forever.... Those last days are always the slowest to go by..

[mauigirl]

You know we're going to expect live updates, right?

:D

[Janneke]

You know we're going to expect live updates, right?

:D

You're right! Forgot to say: WE WANT PICS!! :D

[lvoss]

So, she will get a bit bigger?
Yes, she will get even bigger this week. At this point the puppies are doing lots of growing. Her x-ray appointment is 1 week from today and then we should have a good idea of how many we will be delivering.

I will do my best to post lots of pictures of the newborns. Everyone can also check the blog on October 31st, http://www.basenjinet.net/08litterblog/ for updates.

[Sharla]

Is this her first litter? I hope all goes well. Give her a little belly rub from us :)

[lvoss]

This will be TC's second litter. She had 5 pups in her first litter.

[Sharla]

This will be TC's second litter. She had 5 pups in her first litter.

She looks huge? did you ultrasound? Do you have an idea on how many pups to expect??:rolleyes:

[lvoss]

At 28 days from insemination, the vet saw definately 3 and said maybe 4. Last week, when she was at the vet, he said 4 maybe 5. So we will see what the x-ray shows. We sort of think that when the vet did the first ultrasound he only saw one horn of the uterus.

[Sharla]

How is she doing now??

[tanza]

How is she doing now??

I am not Lisa, but talked to her last night, they were expecting TC to deliver any time between last night and tonight. But I have not heard yet that anything happened yet....

[lvoss]

We are the "a watched basenji never whelps" stage. She is restless for a while and we start thinking, okay maybe now, then she decides "Nope, I think I just want a snack and a nap". The pups are quite low now and she is getting milk so we know it should be soon but she isn't giving any hints about when.

She woke my mom up an hour ago with digging and digging, then as soon as my mom was up she decided "just checking, nevermind." Now she is opening the cabinets in the kitchen, which she did quite a bit last night too.

[nomrbddgs]

Looking for a place to hide perhaps?? In anticipation of all those puppies?

[lvoss]

Maybe but she also just really likes opening cabinets because it gets everyone's attention. After she finished in the pots and pans cabinet she went up to guest room and got in her crate and began to dig for a while, now she is back to opening cabinets. She also is asking for food but then if it isn't the "right" food she doesn't want it and goes back to the guest room to dig some more. If it is the "right" food then she eats it and settles for 30 minutes and then we start again.

[tanza]

Sounds like she is really close.... Maybe for a change, you will get "day time" puppies....

[lvoss]

Maybe, that would be nice. She has settled down again for now.

[lvoss]

I take back the settled down, she is just very slowly migrating from the guest bedroom to the living room and back, now she is check out master bedroom. So I guess she is just taking a leisurely grand tour of the house scoping out where she wants the pups.

[mauigirl]

NEWS!?!?!

I'm keeping your blog open in one of my browser tabs. Of course the B Forum is almost always open in a tab also. Puppies? Still touring the house?

I keep seeing new posts from you in other threads and I"m like ggggguuuuh tell us!

[lvoss]

It has been a very long day. Hard labor started at about 7:30am. At 8:15am the first puppy was delivered, a black boy. After that she was pretty frantic for about an hour. She couldn't really settle. We would let her have her boy and he would nurse for a while then she would get too frantic and was moving around too much so we would take him away. At 9:25 contractions started again. The continued for an hour with no puppy and she was pushing hard each time they hit so we called the vet. They had us come in for an x-ray. The pups were just not moving toward the birth canal. The vet was worried if she kept pushing so hard for so long she would get too tired to keep delivering so she gave her a shot of oxytocin to help move them along. At 11:30am the second puppy was delivered, another black boy. At 11:55 the third puppy was born, another black boy. At 12:30 the last puppy was born, a red girl. From the x-ray there was still something in there so another shot of oxy. We found that it was a partially reabsorbed fetus. So she got another shot of oxy before she was sent home. She is comfortably napping while the pups nurse and nap. Pictures soon.

[Kebasmom]

Oh my I hope everyone is OK (including you). Congratulations. I bet you are beat too.

[tanza]

Congrats to TC and Kinetic Basenjis..... glad to hear all is OK now... I can bet it was pretty stressful for a while there.... and for anyone wanting to breed... take heart... it is not for the faint of heart...

[YodelDogs]

Congratulations, Lisa! I can't wait to see photos!

[mauigirl]

Congratulations!! Can't wait to see them :)

[lvoss]

Here are the pics.

Puppy 1, black boy. Born at 8:15am weighing 8.1 oz.
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Puppy 2, black boy. Born at 11:30am weighing 8.8 oz.
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Puppy 3, black boy. Born at 11:55am weighing 8.8 oz.
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Puppy 4, red girl. Born at 12:30am weighing 8.5 oz.
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[Kebasmom]

How very precious. Are all reds dark like that on their face and ears?

[lvoss]

They usually start out with lots of black hairs in their coats and then lose them as they age.

[agilebasenji]

Awwwww . . .

when you get a chance could you post some pics of the wittle pink toesies? i just love baby puppy toesies, so soft and squishy. puppy breath, i can take or leave, but the toes . . .

[tanza]

On the reds, that is also called "masking"... you know, like the "Lone Ranger" wearing a mask... it does fad usually... but there are some pedigrees that are known for masking and some is quite heavy. Zuri Basenji's are known for masking... and it is mostly the Tri factor influence or the Black gene....

[Duke]

They're all so beautiful! Wow - the boys have LOTS of black in them! Those pink toes...LOVE them, all spread out. TC did a great job delivering her very healthy looking pups - what a trooper. You too Lisa...Congrats to all. Best wishes for a quiet, restful sleep tonight. :)

[Nemo]

Glad to hear everyone - humans and basenjis - are doing well. So cute!

[nomrbddgs]

Congratulations Lisa! What a bunch of cuties!

[Ferox]

Oh they are adorable!!! Huge congrats Lisa!! Just love boy number 2 :)

[Quercus]

Congratulations to TC, Lisa, your mom and everybody else involved in the litter! Glad everything worked out okay :)

[LiveWWSD]

OMG I have been WAY too busy and not online for a while....CONGRATS Lisa. What great pics of the little monsters. :D

[Janneke]

Congrats!! What a lovely pups! Boy #2 is my favorite as well!! :D

[sharronhurlbut]

How many are you keeping?
Do you know yet?

[Schouiffy]

Ohh Congrats on a healthy delivery!!

[BasenjiDiva]

Congratulations!!!! They are all just beautiful. I'm glad everything went well.

Pat

[JazzysMom]

Congrats!! What a lovely pups! Boy #2 is my favorite as well!! :D


I'll take the little red girl... :D

[myran]

Congratulations on a healthy litter bet you all are tired and deserve a loong and good rest:)

Michelle,Myran and Efia

[Terry]

I have to agree with Jazzy's mom; I like the little girl. But then again, black and whites....

Congratulations!

Terry

[myran]

I would take boy nr 1 B/W´s are sooo cute especially if they have enough white to balance it.But as judges say look at the dog not the colour or markings;)

[tanza]

I would take boy nr 1 B/W´s are sooo cute especially if they have enough white to balance it.But as judges say look at the dog not the colour or markings;)

Exactly, and I don't like a lot of white.. I would prefer the more plain marked, especially on Tris and Blacks

[dash]

I want the 3rd little black and white one. so, so cute. I love the white on them!

[Andrew]

How precious!! Congratulations on a safe delivery & healthy mom!

[YodelDogs]

Just going on markings alone, I like boy one. :D

[Ninabeana26]

They are so adorable! Congrats to you Lisa! I can't wait to see more photos as these little ones grow up :)

[lvoss]

For Kim, here is a picture of pink puppy feet. Sorry it is blurry, they don't like staying still much. Hmm, I wonder if that means they'll be coursers?

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[myran]

Ooooh I just luv raspberry toes :DThat´s what they call them on the finnish basenji forum.I envy you Ivoss to smell and touch those lovely little bundles of joy :)

[lvoss]

The puppies are 1 week old today and I just had to share this very cute picture of one of the boy's belly

[nomrbddgs]

Oh, so cute now Lisa! But in two-three more weeks you know they're going to be a herd of running hippos!

[Janneke]

How cute! I love puppies.............

[LiveWWSD]

Oh so sweet. This has been a great thread Lisa, thank you ... I have so enjoyed the anticipation and then getting to see the little cute beasties

[Schouiffy]

Lisa, they are absolutely adorable!!

major jealousy here.

[agilebasenji]

ugh, i can't stand it! i tried to smush the photo on my monitor, don't think the computer liked that too much. I just looovves those smushy pink baby toesies. I like to rub them on my face too. <sigh> thanks for the virtual fix. i've taken the liberty to save the pic on my computer. somewhere i also have a pic of pink baby collie toesies. I'm waiting to hear if my tri-ing dog is going to be a daddy. hopefully i can get a real fix there.

[tanza]

Who was your "tri-ing" boy bred to?..... too cool.... I think he is just the nicest boy....

[agilebasenji]

Thanks, he was bred to Pat Bird's Zena, Ch. Moksha's Zena by JR. Hopefully Pat will get what she wants out of it. Unfortunately, the timing isn't right for me to get a puppy (I have 2 youngerish dogs here right now and I do lots of training with the agility and all). But I will go up there to smush puppy toesies. I think it looks like an interesting breeding as the two aren't related but are both Am stock. Both clear parents, so hopeful puppies will have a good start there. Should know later this week if Zena is with pups.

[tanza]

Thanks, he was bred to Pat Bird's Zena, Ch. Moksha's Zena by JR. Hopefully Pat will get what she wants out of it. Unfortunately, the timing isn't right for me to get a puppy (I have 2 youngerish dogs here right now and I do lots of training with the agility and all). But I will go up there to smush puppy toesies. I think it looks like an interesting breeding as the two aren't related but are both Am stock. Both clear parents, so hopeful puppies will have a good start there. Should know later this week if Zena is with pups.

That's great.... can't wait to hear... and hopefully our Kylie will be bred this coming week.....

[mauigirl]

That's great.... can't wait to hear... and hopefully our Kylie will be bred this coming week.....

I hope you will keep us well informed on her litter. I really loved following TC's progress in this thread...

[tanza]

I hope you will keep us well informed on her litter. I really loved following TC's progress in this thread...

I will certainly do that.... I can't wait

[lvoss]

I was going to post some video but I am having technical difficulties so everyone will have to just be happy with a still photo until I figure out why the video doesn't work on Photobucket but plays fine on my computer.

[lvoss]

Here is the pic

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[myran]

Ugh that is one big pup with scary eye´s HEY he´s not real :P But the pup beside him is adorable that is how a Basenji pup should look can we have more pic´s to drool over please:D

[lvoss]

Here is a pic of the boys nursing.

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[Ninabeana26]

Awwww. They are so adorable! I can't wait for pictures when they start walking, open their eyes, etc. :)

[lvoss]

You can now check out some video at, http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w168/lrvoss/?action=view&current=1WeekOld.flv

[BasenjiDiva]

Little fatties! Momma must be producing "Ben and Jerry's" quality milk! So cute! Thank you for sharing.

Pat

[seko]

Just have to love those little babies ;)

[Janneke]

Cute pups! And what a loving mom :)

[sharronhurlbut]

Wonderful, thanks for sharing...

[BasenjiByTheBay]

This has been the most fun ever - having virtual puppies! Thanks!:D

[soulmate]

thanks for sharing! Really good sleepers and one of them is even heavily dreaming.

Regards,
Esther

[wizard]

Thanks for sharing - I just wanted to pick one up and cuddle - awww.

[Nemo]

I love watching the mother interact with them. They're so cute! This will give me my puppy fix until I get to cuddle some in person in January.

[lvoss]

Puppies are 2 weeks old and their eyes are open.

Bella
http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/bella2wks.jpg

Blaze
http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/blaze2wks.jpg

Clark
http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/clark2wks.jpg

Dean
http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/dean2wks.jpg

[Janneke]

Sweeeeeeeet..! Love the names :)

[sharronhurlbut]

They are growing so fast...

[Quercus]

Adorable!!!

[myran]

Blaze is soooooo cute!!!!! Eeeek getting puppy fever:D

[Sharla]

I love Clark's face!! How fun, but sooo much work!

[Ninabeana26]

So incredibly precious! Thank you for sharing Lisa :)

[soulmate]

they are all perfect! Really sweet. Thanks for sharing.

Regards,
Esther

[lvoss]

Thank you everyone for the compliments on the pups. I, of course, think they are perfect.

Here is some more video for you all to enjoy.

http://s176.photobucket.com/albums/w168/lrvoss/?action=view&current=SleepyPuppyPlay.flv

[sharronhurlbut]

Very cute.
Love the star on the back of your r/w baby

[lvoss]

The pups turned 4 weeks old on Saturday and are growing like weeds. They are playing more and more and are very people oriented snuggling with anyone who is willing to come and sit with them.

Dean
http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/dean4wks.jpg

Clark
http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/clark4wks.jpg

Blaze
http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/blaze4wks.jpg

Bella
http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/bella4wks.jpg

[Janneke]

Very cute! They are really becoming mini dogs now :D
You can send Clark to us... ;)

[Ninabeana26]

So cute! Keep the photos coming :)

[BasenjiDiva]

They really are adorable. Such alert little faces and bright eyes.

Pat

[Schouiffy]

ahhhhhhh the cuteness.... its killing meeeeeeeeeee

[wizard]

They are starting to look like dogs now too.
Oooooh I'm just melting looking at them :)

[Quercus]

Oh my....so....so.....so cute!!

[agilebasenji]

4 weeks already? really? wow.

they're sitll very cute.

[Duke]

Love that the ears have all popped up! They're cute-Cute-CUTE!

[soulmate]

They are gorgeous! My favorite would be Clark due to he has not that many white in his face...

Regards,
Esther

[JazzysMom]

Bella -- she's my pick out.

Oh my. I know I've said it before -- I could never be a breeder.
I'd wind up one of those crazy people that the folks on Animal Precinct have to
visit to remove 300 dogs from the home. :-)

Beautiful puppies. Just looking at the pictures warms the ****les of the heart, no?

[Nemo]

They are all so cute! How old when their tails start to curl? or do they already?

[tanza]

They are all so cute! How old when their tails start to curl? or do they already?

They usually start to "tip" over at 5 weeks or so.... they change lots during teething...

[wizard]

Okay I have a stupid question (I was trying to backtrack to your original post and can't seem to add correctly) ... How long is the typical gestation period for basenjis?

[lvoss]

The picture is kind of fuzzy because they never stand still but you can see the one pup's tail. They are all about that curled right now.

http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/boys4wks.jpg

As for the gestation period, it is 63 days from the day they ovulate.

[dash]

so. Do you ship to Ohio??:)

[sharronhurlbut]

They just get cuter and cuter....

[lvoss]

Here are some pics from this week. The puppies are 5 weeks old. I am not sure how Bella avoided the camera so well this week but she did.

Dean, 5 weeks
http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/dean5wkssm.jpg

Clark, 5 weeks
http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/clark5wks2sm.jpg

Blaze, 5 weeks
http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/blaze5wkssm.jpg

Bella's Butt, 5 weeks
http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/clark5wkssm.jpg

Dean is already trying to figure out how to get out the dog door
http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/Deandogdoorsm.jpg

And as we all know, A Tired Basenji is a Good Basenji
http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/sleepingpuppiessm.jpg

[tanza]

They are looking great Lisa.....

[Nemo]

Cute! The tails look even curlier now. I wish I didn't have to wait until January to see some puppies in person...

[JazzysMom]

Aww, even Bella's butt is cute, LOL.

[lvoss]

The puppies are very active now and play much more.

http://http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/bitethetunnel.jpg

http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/wrestlemania.jpg

http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/luretraining.jpg

[lvoss]

Here is the third pic. It keeps logging me out so I can't fix the typo in the link in the post above.

http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/bitethetunnel.jpg

[Janneke]

Very cute pics, very cute pups! Just adorable...

[Kebasmom]

Absolutely love the BW in the background of the second picture.

[Nemo]

Already attacking plastic bags. What little coursers they'll be. Cute!

[Buana]

ooohhh... I Like Clark!!!

I know my perfect Christmas gift this year.... :D

[lvoss]

Here are their 8 week old pics. Sorry for the blurriness, my camera settings were apparently wrong.

Bella

http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/037.JPG

Dean

http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/052.JPG

Clark

http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/072.JPG

Blaze

http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/067.JPG

[tanza]

While hard to tell totally from the pictures.... I like Clark and Bella the best. Hard to tell about Bella's shoulders... but both she and Clark have the best rears from what I can tell both with a very nice shelf....

[lvoss]

That was the general consensus yesterday. Both Clark and Bella's fronts would be better if they were a bit further back but overall they are both nice puppies. Bella has the show attitude, very full of herself being the only girl and only red. Clark is more like his dad in attitude.

[lvoss]

Here are some not blurry casuals from yesterday.

Bella

http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/023.JPG

Clark

http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/010.JPG

Dean

http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/024.JPG

The whole Gang

http://www.basenjinet.net/2008_litter_album/012.JPG

[YodelDogs]

Based solely on these photos, I would rank Bella and Dean the highest but Clark and Flash are certainly not far behind. This is a fabulous litter. I love them all.