Call/Registration Names

[Natalplum]

What's the difference between a "call" name and a "registration" name?

[lvoss]

The registered name is the name that would show up in a pedigree, show catalog, registration papers. Call name is the name that you actually call the dog.

Here are my 4 dogs as examples.

Registered Name: Sherwood's In The Nick Of Time Call Name: Nicky

Registered Name: Sherwood's Shadow of the Moon Call Name: Rally

Registered Name: Kinetic Sourcery Call Name: Rio

Registered Name: Kinetic-Tanza Soul Music Call Name: Sophie

Sometimes people make the call name something that connects to the registered name, like Nick of Time and Nicky. Other times not, like all my other dogs.

[tanza]

And Mine

Registered Name: Zuri's Ti-Tanza Wazi Ajabu, Call Name Mickii
Registered Name: Bushbabies Obviously Jazz, Call Name OJ
Registered Name: Tanza's Kenyetta, Call Name Kristii
Registered Name: Tanza's Almazi Madini, Call Name Crystal
Registered Name: Emerant Fopaw TriWizard At Tanza, Call name Kobey

[Andrew]

This is Mauigirl. I'm at "Andrew's" house right now so I'll post for all of us, under his/her name (haha):

Possum Creek ZipNto Starfyre "Zip"
Sulou's Tri The Good Life "Riley" (rather obscure connection: life of riley= good life)

Griffin's Pick Of The Litter "Booger" (self-explanatory)
Griffin's Lola Rennt "Lola" (reference to film)

Also sometimes breeders pick themes for litters and the registered names tie all the dogs together according to the theme. Or sometimes a single word in a couple names ties two dogs who live in the same household together.

p.s. (That was mauigirl, not realizing she was logged in under the "Andrew" screenname!)
p.s.s. (carrie missed the first part!)

p.p.s. (Mauigirl does not know the proper use of "p.p.s.")

[JazzysMom]

Mine are:

Jumoke's Jazzy Lady: Jazzy
Jumoke South Pacific Keoki: Keoki.

As you can see, we stuck pretty close with both names. I picked the name I wanted for Jazz and made it her registered name. The only litter requirement at that time was that it include Jumoke. In Keoki's case, Bryan said the litter theme was South Pacific, so we went with that and gave him a Hawaiian name. Personally, I wanted a boy named Satchemo to go with my girl Jazz, but oh well.... I've never really "gotten" having the call name and registered name be so different.

[agilebasenji]

I'd have said registered name includes titles, no?

As far as them being different, well, Jet's reg name (w/o titles) is Jerlin's Saint or Sinner. The breeder had been calling him "Saint". I said "Linda, I can't call a basenji Saint". She replied "Well, his name is Saint or Sinner, so you could call him Sinner." I, in mock horror, told her "I'm not about to call a basenji Sinner!" So, I wanted to call him Jude since St Jude is the patron saint of Lost Causes (and therefor the patron saint of people who do agility with basenjis), but hubby nixed it. And since it was his dog . . .

Digital, is Idlewild-Jerlin's Digital. That's his name without titles, with titles adds about 2 lines to his name.

The name Zest! came before the dog. The name came to me and I knew it would be a great agility basenji name, but she was Makalika Jerlin Cherry Pop on her paperwork.

All of my dogs were registered before I got them.

[Natalplum]

Thanks! I updated Mick's info on the canine phenome project website and this is Mick's new registered name.

Irish Dingo Leaper of Abington - Irish cause we're Mc's, Dingo cause he carries a tattered stuffed babydoll around, Leaper cause he leaps instead of jumps, and Abington because that's our town.
What do you think?

[lvoss]

I'd have said registered name includes titles, no?

That is an interesting point. I guess since not all organizations recognize the other's titles, I didn't really think of them as part of the name. If I did then as an example looking at Rio.

To AKC she is FC Kinetic Sourcery SC
To ASFA, LGRA, and NOTRA she is FC Kinetic Sourcery SC, FCh, JOR
To UKC she is Kinetic Soucery

[JazzysMom]

I'd have said registered name includes titles, no?



Oh yeah.. forgot that minor detail, LOL.

Make that Ch. Jumoke's Jazzy Lady! :D

And keep the just plain ol' Jumoke South Pacific Keoki. Poor little guy had his career cut short by our decision to neuter. :(

[lvoss]

I've never really "gotten" having the call name and registered name be so different.
Nicky named himself which is why his call name and registered name match.

I picked Rally's call name long before she ever born, 12 months or more. The theme for her litter was Moon to go with her mom's name Sherwood's Red Moon Rising, "Luna". So we picked the registered name to match the theme and kept the call name.

With Rio, her registered name was picked long before she was born. When it came to her call name, we decided that rather than match call name to registered name that we would name her after an Anime character since that is how found Rally's name, that way we would have a link between mom and daughter. Just like Rally's registered name links her to her mom even if our link is only known to us.

With Sophie, her call name is from an Anime and her registered name is from the same book series as we got Rio's registered name so there is a method to our madness even it only makes sense to me and my husband.

[lvoss]

And keep the just plain ol' Jumoke South Pacific Keoki. Poor little guy had his career cut short by our decision to neuter. :(
Just because he is neutered doesn't mean he has to remain title-less. You could give lure coursing a try.

[tanza]

Same with mine... I didn't put their "titles" with them....Registered Name: Zuri's Ti-Tanza Wazi Ajabu, Call Name Mickii She is MBIF DC in front and SC, LCM 7 at the end
Registered Name: Bushbabies Obviously Jazz, Call Name OJ, he is CH in the front
Registered Name: Tanza's Kenyetta, Call Name Kristii, She is DC in front and SC, LCM at the end
Registered Name: Tanza's Almazi Madini, Call Name Crystal, She is DC in front and SC,CD,RA,CGC at the end
Registered Name: Emerant Fopaw TriWizard At Tanza, Call name Kobey and he is JC and CGC at the end...
These are only a few of our "kids".....

And many of the names, both registered and call were decided before they were born...

[tanza]

Just because he is neutered doesn't mean he has to remain title-less. You could give lure coursing a try.

Exactly!!!! or Rally...

[lvoss]

Exactly!!!! or Rally...
Or Agility. or Sprint Racing.

There are so many titling events that you can do with your dog.

[renaultf1]

This is a neat thread...

My Bs are:
Ch. Eldorado n Akuaba's Bejeweled (Ruby)
Am. Can. Ch. Sternhimmels Generis Sui (Brando)

Both show dog retirees, Ruby was adopted as an adult and Brando is a permanent foster (he's co-owned by Eldorado & Terry Boomir), so I did not name them. In my case, both kids' call names actually relate well to their registered names.
Jewel - Ruby and Sui Generis (of its own kind) - Brando...Marlon Brando was definitely sui generis! The cool part for me with Brando is that one of my all time favourite movies is Apocalypse Now...so it is funny that I'd have a dog named Brando when I didn't name him.

[lvoss]

So here are all of mine with all their titles.

DC Sherwood's In The Nick Of Time SC, RN, LCM, JOR
DC Sherwood's Shadow of the Moon SC, FCh, JOR
FC Kinetic Sourcery SC, FCh, JOR
FC Kinetic-Tanza Soul Music SC

Co-owner of
DC Kinetic's Enchanted Knight SC, FCh, JOR

[wizard]

EL D's (retired show champian) registered name (without titles) is Sonbar's Iced Identity (from a litter using stored sperm/ova hence all the Ice in their names: Imperial Ice, Indigo Ice, and Incandescent Icicle).

[Quercus]

EL D's (retired show champian) registered name (without titles) is Sonbar's Iced Identity (from a litter using stored sperm/ova hence all the Ice in their names: Imperial Ice, Indigo Ice, and Incandescent Icicle).

Wasn't that frozen semen from Sally's Bravo? He was such an awesome dog.

That is another thing with the registered names..sometimes it gives a clue to who the parents, and possibly grandparents are.

[snorky998]

Thanks! I updated Mick's info on the canine phenome project website and this is Mick's new registered name.

Irish Dingo Leaper of Abington - Irish cause we're Mc's, Dingo cause he carries a tattered stuffed babydoll around, Leaper cause he leaps instead of jumps, and Abington because that's our town.
What do you think?

LMAO.......A DINGO'S GOT MY BABY!!

[JazzysMom]

Just because he is neutered doesn't mean he has to remain title-less. You could give lure coursing a try.

Yeah, I've thought of that -- he does love to run, and he's way faster than Jazz. But I live an hour from the nearest events and I don't feel like I have the time to put into it for him and/or take away from family. Then there are gas prices.

AND I'm a big chicken. When they were showing, I just had to show up with the dogs and Bryan did all the work. The thought of figuring out the hows and whens and all of lure coursing just intimidates me. :confused:

It DOES seem a little unfair to him, because I am sure he would love it. :(

[YodelDogs]

I use themes for every litter and sometimes the dog's call name matches the registered name, sometimes it doesn't.

The dogs currently residing in my household:

Sherwood's Red Baron "Baron"
Sherwood's Red Alert "Logan"
Sherwood's Timeswept Promises "Pippin"
Sherwood's Something Special "Bindi"
Sherwood's Secret Legacy "Jozie"

[Quercus]

This is a fun thread :) Most of our dogs have some sort of connection between their registered name and call name.

Am/Can Ch Select Quercus Rubra "Querk"
Select Quercus Infinite Velocity JC "Ivy"
Taji-Rennek-Platinum Quercus JC "Blondie"
Ch Taji's Closing Bell at Quercus JC "Bella"
Quercus Select Incandescent "Luna"
Quercus Taji What In-Carnation? "Carl" but we usually call him "Hippo" or "Hippo/Carl" because that is what Ethan named him. He was a VERY big puppy at birth!

[etzbseder]

I think I'm one of the very few, but Medjai's registered name is Medjai.

There was not really any reason to keep with the parent's name, as it was a BYB and his dogs are named simply their call name with a number. Except for the few that he bought elsewhere that have full 'regular' registered names. (Bandit Jones vs. Spicy-Kazor of Anza)

[wizard]

Quercus,
To your question ... "Wasn't that frozen semen from Sally's Bravo? He was such an awesome dog." That's exactly it - Brandy and Brite Northern Exposure.

[LiveWWSD]

THis is a fun thread. So here ar my pups names

Charlie = Avatar's Charlemagne Veritas
Or "Charlemagne's truth"
And
Zaire = Taji's Nyonda Zaire Usharifu
or "Beloved nobility of Zaire"

:D

[BasenjiDiva]

And our two are:

Sherwood's Little Red Corvette (Cory)
Sherwood's Secret Keeper (Jayden)

Pat

[Terry]

We don't generally do themes, but sometimes try to honor the sire or dam, and I like to look up Swahili words and include them when they suit the dog's personality. Usually the puppies kind of name themselves and then we're stuck trying to find a registered name that's not too far away...

Ch. Illusion's Rio Grande of Dune, SDHR - Tex (His white neck mark was the shape of Texas when he was a baby)
Ch. Fiber Optic Illusion - Fiber
Ch. Lela Jamilli - Lela
Ch. Nowata's Malkia Illusion - Kate (Malkia is Queen in Swahili, she was the only red in her litter, so she's named after Katherine Hepburn in The African Queen)
Ch. Illusion's Lonestar - Dude (sired by a dog in Texas)
Ch. Illusion's Moonlit Arrow, JC - Arrow (she had a black 'bullseye' in the middle of her white collar)
Ch. Kalikids Kivulli Illusion - Kivu (Kivuli means shadow in Swahili)
Illusion's Jelani Rio - JR (Tex and Arrow's red son, Jelani means mighty)
Illusion's Queen in Moonlight - Queenie, although her handler calls her Cookie because she always pays attention to that! Tex and Arrow's black daughter.

Terry

[Terry]

Oops, I will never be forgiven! I forgot one!

Ch. Illusion's Mlia Amina - Mimi Mlia means striped, and was part of her mother's name. She was the only puppy to survive in her litter and she battled so hard that we named her after an ancient African female warrior, Amina.

Terry

[Sharla]

:p My first basenji was CH Brinidana Jones of Dune. His son is Foresses Indiana Jones.

But ususally, I try to match the dog's personality.

Sharla

[Schouiffy]

As I havent had the time to show my little girl (bahh)
her reg. name is Hajomi Eikobondo, call name Lycia

(said Basenji is snoring loudly next to me)

we are thinking on lure coursing though...

[soulmate]

@ Lauren:
Eikobondo? Are you sure about that? I know Kennel Ekibondo from Czech Republik....

My dogs are

Old Legend's Anam Chara - he is called Jester
Old Legend's Banshee - she is called Banshee
I was allowed both times to choose the registration and the callnames.

And last but not least, Lis Glamur Velikaya Panda-Monkey, she is called Panda.

Sometimes I wish, that breeders think about Kennel names and dog names BEFORE naming each of them, in order to get the names in the registration forms for Shows and other events. Sometimes it is hard to write that small and still in a way that others are able to read what they need to know....

Regards,
Esther

[pufferlover]

What determines the kennel name that will be used? The dam?

[lvoss]

The breeder of the litter determines the kennel name that is used.

So back to my dog's names:

Sherwood's In The Nick of Time
Sherwood's Shadow of the Moon

Sherwood is the kennel name of their breeder Robyn Dubbert. There are several Sherwood dogs on the Forums.

Kinetic Sourcery

Kinetic is my kennel name.

Kinetic-Tanza Soul Music

Kinetic is my kennel name, Tanza is Pat's kennel name. This was a co-breeding and both kennel names are in the registered name.

The litter that I am expecting on Halloween will be Kinetic and Enchanted since I am co-breeding the litter with my mom.

[Schouiffy]

Yeps it's Ekibondo.. my fingers got happy with the 'o' key. =)

[tanza]

And my kennel name was years ago going to be Obvious but then I decided to use a more Af name and picked a small lake in Africia, Tanza

So for come of my kids
Zuri's Ti-Tanza Wazi Ajabu, aka Mickii (Zuri is the kennel name of the breeder, Ti to indicated Tri, and Tanza as my kennel name), her offspring

Tanza's Tego
Tanza-Zuri Fatia (while it was not a co-breeding with Mickii's breeder we did have an agreement that we would co-own the keeper of the litter)

Now we have Kobey
Emerant Fopaw TriWizard at Tanza - So Emerant and Fopaw are the kennel names of the co-breeders and Tanza is my kennel name

I am co-breeding with Parry this year so the kennel name will be Tanza (on the pups I keep) and Rugusa on the pups that he keeps or maybe a combo of both, we have not decided. One of these pups will go back to the stud owner instead of a stud fee, so that pup will have Fopaw in the name....

So the moral of the story is, people use their kennel names as a way to identify their breedings and themselves. We put lots and lots of time, effort, engery, money into our litters and are proud of our pups, so we want everyone to know who they are....

[myran]

Cool Hannah Ekibondo became EUW-08 with BOB in Budapest this past weekend under Judge Kay Eldred from australia and she´s just a juniorbitch.She must come from the same litter as yours Scouiffy:)
Ok back to the topic
Wazin Red Elegance -she´s called Efia swahili word for Born on a friday.
Dipop Red´s Dancer -he´s called Myran which in swedish means ant as he reminded me of a fireant.
Both dog´s share the same dad Meisterhaus Tail Of Intrigue bred by Tad Brooks.

[Schouiffy]

She is indeed from the same litter =) It was a fantastic group of girls, the breeder I think is still a little disappointed I'm not showing Lycia.. alas.

[myran]

I saw their dad at the WDS-2008 C-Quest Echo Of Eldorado he´s one good looking boy and if they got his bonestructure and topline they are a lucky group of girls;)

[Schouiffy]

Well as I understand it, she has his topline - and her mothers light bone structure and feminine face. Apparently she is a excellent "female" mirror of Echo. =)

Again, I'm kicking myself for not having her in the ring...

[peony]

My dogs are:

Old Legend's Chinese Peony, called "Peony"
Old Legend's Dojo-Hoshi, called "Dojo"

and the same as soulmate I was also allowed to choose both names.