Basenji without spunk - very sick, pls read

[Mantis]

My little Beta is a tri basenji. She is about 4 and is a rescue from a puppy mill. I have had her for about 3 years now. We have been at the vet all week and her symptoms are:

depression
1/2 appetite
doesnt want to pee or poop
shaking (as if she were cold after a bath) in her chest
loud gassy sounds coming from her belly
the shaking and gas will last about 15 minutes
does not want to move
tender belly
doesnt want to walk
will growl at my other basenji
diarhea when pooping, quantity is normal

obviously she is displaying extreme pain and discomfort.

her fecal came back clean- suspected giardia at first
both my basenjis get giardia easily
her bloodwork and urine came back normal
her protein levels were a bit high but the doc said not enough to consider it as anything critical

we compared her urinalysis to a urinalysis she had 3 months ago
3 months ago, both basenjis had giardia and beta displayed the shaking behavior which is unsual and i had them do the urinalysis becuase i couldnt believe the giardia was causing her that much pain...the tests came back normal-doctors said no fanconi

now my other b is normal

and beta is bad

the xray showed an undefined area around the pancreas which concerned the doctors

they did an ultrasound and said the pancreas/ liver seemed larger than they like to see and that the gall bladder was smooth but appeared thick and the duct area appeared thick as well

now beta is coughing and sounds like she has liquid in her lung

she is having trouble keeping her eyes open and looks a bit swolen in her face

she was on an iv yesterday for fluids and antibiotics and nausea which seemed to help while she was hooked up

this morning the symptoms are back and she has the new cough and trouble keeping her eyes open

i am having her xrays from a few months ago sent in today for the doctors to compare and will take her back in to be readmitted for the day

i did research last night and came up with two diseases in basenjis that might be possible explanations

IPSID Immnoproliferative small intestinal disease, malabsorption, immunoproliferative enteropathy of basenjis

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cholangio hepatitis

the doctor will be looking into these today and getting back with me.

does anyone have any experience with these symptoms in their b's? or know about the two diseases? or have other suggestions?

she has a catheter in and was ripping it out in the true basenji fashion so they had an ecollar on her. they dont observe over night, so i brought her home. i am home from work today to monitor her without the collar so she can be comfortable. we will head back in around lunch time

she is currently at oakhurst vet which has a staff of doctors that review all cases together. i am comfortable with the vet and agree with everything they have done so far.

although they are vet teachers and have a great practice i am expecting that they dont know basenjis behaviors like we do. any input you guys have would be great. i am looking for possible ideas for the doctors to consider instead of masking the symptoms with antibiotics.

betsey

[Quercus]

Gee, Betsey, I wish I had some ideas for you. I sure hope they find answer for you, poor thing sounds in bad shape.

As far as IPSID, I don't know for sure, but I thought the onset of this weas much earlier? And I don't know if she would have all the other symptoms, swelling eyes, cough with that. I thought they kind of just waste away.

Anyhow, best of luck, prayers on the way...

[Mantis]

i was told that the shaking and gassy sounds are typical of gall bladder symptoms....

she had the same symptoms 3 months ago, but were mixed with the giardia...and the symptoms were just called her reaction to pain

as she lays with caesar next to me on the couch she seems to be getting worse....

she is coughing more which just started last night. and just looks like she is struggling. although she is sleeping, she physically is active.....

the doctor should be in now, so i will be taking her in shortly....

[jys1011]

Betsey

lots of prayers & hugs for Beta. I do hope they find out what's wrong with her soon. This must be an awful time.

[Duke]

Glad you are taking good care of your little Beta. I don't have any experience with Basenji diseases, but I wonder if the symptoms might be related to a poison - something toxic she got into? Just pressing for other ideas. Hope the vets get on the right track for Beta soon.

[nala121498]

My thoughts are prayers go out to Beta. Please keep us posted.

[Mantis]

she is back at the vet for the day. she is having more blood work and xrays. the doctor thinks the hepatitis disease may fit her symptoms. they will be checking her blood for a drop in protein. they will call with the results.....

[Basenji_Boy]

she is back at the vet for the day. she is having more blood work and xrays. the doctor thinks the hepatitis disease may fit her symptoms. they will be checking her blood for a drop in protein. they will call with the results.....

Please keep us posted on the results and how things are going.

[seko]

I had a puppy with IPSID, not eating and diarhea (muccus and blood) where the symptoms.
No shaking, no pain and he could be quite lively at times .

[Mantis]

so, no message from the vet yet today.....here is a pic of my red Caesar loving on sick Beta this morning....

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[Mantis]

I picked Beta up this eve and she is still swollen. All four feet are pink. They did bloodwork for the second time and it came back normal. They did a chest xray and she has an inflamed area in her chest but the lungs look okay. So they have two sets of bloodwork and a recent urinalysis and xrays to compare to the xrays from september. we thought the swelling that i was seeing this morning was from the iv antibiotics. so today they changed the antibiotics and she still appears to be swollen on her jowels and feet. Her eyes are kinda swollen closed or she is having a hard time keeping them open. They gave her pain meds and a nausea shot before i picked her up so she would sleep the whole night. They took out the catheter so the swelling of that foot (worst) would go down and she could sleep without the e collar. she is zonked out beside me right now. she devoured her food like she did yesterday and thank god for that. she is still peeing and pooping and eating upon request. she was mobile and reacted to the nurses better today, but still doesnt want to walk around. she is still shaking, coughing, and has the severe gas....

Please keep the feedback coming! I appreciate all of the advice.

Beta will be at work with me tomorrow. We will see how she does in the morning when the meds wear off. If she continues to show the same symptoms tomorrow without improvement we will have a internalist come in and do an ultrasound. all of the xrays were free of spots or cysts and only showed areas that appeared to be irritated or lacked definition.

Thanks Again, Betsey

[youngandtired]

So sorry to hear your baby is so sick, I would be on top of it just like you seem to be. I will pray for you and her, please keep us posted. Ceasar is just the sweetest thing to be loving on Beta, I am sure he can sence that something is wrong.

[Bandit]

Awww (((((hugs))))) that is just the best pic.....

[nala121498]

I'm sending healthy vibes your way, Beta. The picture is just so sweet. I have a tear just seeing it! Please keep us posted on how all is going.
Lots of (((healing hugs))) coming your way too.

[Mantis]

well, Beta has been with me at work all morning. It seems that the pain med that should have lasted 12 hrs seems to have lingered in her system this morning. she isnt displaying the shakes or the gassy sounds like before.

she has aquired two ulcer spots on her gums about her canine teeth.

she is walking around a bit and has slept most of the day. i am still giving her the antibiotics.

she still is a no personality basenji except for the doe eyes. she is having trouble keeping her eyes open and appears to be calmer. here is a picture of her 3 days ago, and today at my desk. you can see the strange change in her face. last night it was swollen a bit.

all she is doing is sleeping. she did have the coughing this morning that i havent heard all day.

the doctor suggests we do the ultrasound (which i am all about ) since beta is still not perky. we want to avoid another episode of this that could be worse next time.

i wonder what it is?

betsey

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[jys1011]

Oh my gosh Betsey I'm in tears over your sick Beta...lots & lots of hugs & prayers for you both. This must be so incredibly difficult & frustrating to NOT Know what the heck it is!

Please hang in there & know that we're all pulling for you both.

[spitfirekrl1]

Ugh, that is so sad. On top of the fact that it's hard to see your babies sick it's even worse when you don't know what's wrong and how to fix it. I hope all is well for you both.

[Mantis]

Weird is right. She is better now that she is off of the IV fluids and antibiotics. She is moving about freely at the house now and she even ran a few times with Caesar in the yard. She had just eaten and received her antibiotic. After running she sat down next to me as if in pain. All of her white areas were bright pink.

I am wondering if the antibiotic that i have been giver her twice a day is causing the reaction...i will watch her tomorrow when she gets her next dose to see if that is what is causing the redness....it's gone now and she seems okay......

[Mantis]

Day 8, Friday morning. Beta woke this morning by coughing pretty hard. Whatever is in there now sounds thicker. She is trying to cough it out. Her xray 2 days ago showed nothing in her lungs. I will have them check again today.

this morning is the best time to check her because she has the least amount of meds in her system. she is shaking again and the gassy sounds are back.she is bright pink also, so i am ruling out the atibiotic that she gets twice a day. the second antibiotic she gets once a day didnt appear to make her pink either. it could just be her running a bit in the yard.

her eyes seem a bit swollen again.

the plan is to take her to an internist on tues for an ultrasound. since the vet is closed on sun and half day on sat, i am taking her back for observation today.

lets hope she does okay over the weekend. this is so frustrating. hopefully all of this text will help someone else out down the road.

[Mantis]

bad news. Beta was wheezing the whole ride to the vet. When we got to the vet she couldnt sit down and was hover sitting. She was shaking and her stomach was lurching. The vet found that she was tender around her neck and shoulder area. She said that Beta's intestines were moving so much it felt similar to dogs with puppies. Then, Beta started crying.....oh, there is nothing compared to a basenji crying....a sitting position seems to be the only way she can get comfortable...

the shaking, gassy sounds, stomach lurching episode didnt seem to stop this morning. before it was about 10-15 minutes and happeded maybe 3-4 x in a day. now it is about 4x while i was with her in the vet room with her. She is at the vet and that is the best I can do.

here is a pic of beta this morning before the attack or episode started, so cute

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[nala121498]

OMG! I feel so bad - please keep us posted on her...she is so adorable. I will keep as many positive, healthy vibes, prayers and thoughts for her as possible.

[jenwilson]

I am SO sorry to hear about your sick Basenji. It's hard to read all the posts for the tears in my eyes. How frightening it must be for both of you. Please keep us posted. I will pray for your basenji that they will find the source of her discomfort and fix things. God Bless you and your B.

[Lenora]

Any chance she is allergic to the antibiotic? At least some of her symptoms sound like an allergic reaction to me, because it's an ongoing thing while she's still on the antibiotic: the puffy eyes, pinkness, fluid in the lungs, wheezing. Just a thought, as I'm a people nurse and not a dog nurse. Lenora

[red and white furever]

Big hugs to your "pack" - I really wish I had some advice, but sadly I don't have any. You'll all be in my "pack's" thoughts and prayers.

[JoeyQ]

I'm just sick about Beta! Our prayers are with you all! Thank you so very much for sharing your hardship! As you mentioned, it may help one of us down the road! You are very brave and Beta has the best in you!

[Mantis]

I was too upset yesterday to post this. She has been at the vet specialist since Friday. She had surgery Sat morning for the diagnosis that her intestine had folded in on itself. Well, when the doctor got in there, the intestine was fine. He said the stomach appeared red and the lymph nodes were enlarged. He said the liver, pancreas, intestines, and gall bladder looked fine. He took biopsies of the intestine in 3 places, and biopsys of the stomach and lymph nodes. I will find out the results on Wed.

This is extremely frustrating because I still get to pay the price of the surgery without any resolve and now have a basenji that barely can walk. I have been visiting her and she was so doped up yesterday she barely recognized me.

The nurse said she recovered from the surgery well and isnt on pain meds right now?! Dogs are amazing animals and heal fast, but I am worried about her comfort level.

I just want my Beta back and I cant take care of her. She is having too much pain for me to fix it. I am so frustrated.

[JoeyQ]

Checking in on Beta and you....I am sorry that you are going through this! When they can't tell you what's wrong (both doc and dog), it is excrutiatingly (sp?) painful! You are doing all you can to help Beta! Don't forget to take care of yourself too. Our prayers continue for both of you. Stay positive! That will help you both!

[seko]

From where did they got the idea the intestine folded in on itself?
I hope for her and you they'll find what's wrong with her from the biopsy.
Keep us posted!

[Lenora]

If it had been intussusception the surgery could have corrected it. Now you still don't know what's wrong with your baby. I will keep you and Beta in my prayers for a full recovery. Lenora

[Duke]

Healing vibes for your sweet Beta and vibes of strength for you. It is so stressful when our babies are sick. Wishing Beta and yourself well.

[jys1011]

Hang in there Mantis looks like our prayers are working since Beta is still holding on & recovering. We'll keep thinking positive thoughts & sending lots of prayers to you both.

You are an amazing dog parent & I really respect all that you're doing for Beta.

[Mantis]

thanks guys....she should be released from the specialist today....then i will take her back to the vet she has been visiting last week for a check up and discussion.

then home for rest....

the specialist did an ultrasound on friday that did look like what they described as the intestine folding in on itself....but that was wrong.

i will keep you posted. should hear something on wed.

[nala121498]

Still keeping the healing vibes coming to Beta...please let us know how she is doing. I can only imagine how you feel. Take care.

[Mantis]

I picked up Beta yesterday at the Specialist. She willingly got into her hated kennel for the ride home. She was very happy to be home. She was a puppymill rescue and had lived in a small kennel for over a year and a half before i adopted her. i am sure she had some trauma being at the hospital the entire weekend.

as of today she weighs 18lbs. she has only lost 2lbs so far and i am working with her all day on rice and soft special food.

last night was pretty hairy. she woke me around 2 am with coughing and severe wheezing. i was staring at her with her e collar on and laying there. what could i give her? nothing. so i just listened for a while. i have chronic asthma and know what her breathing sounded like. she was also her lips a lot so i gave her a half of a pepsid ac to settle her stomach.

she woke me up again around 5am throwing up. just liquid. this was a pretty bad night over all and her first throwing up incident.

she woke again at 6am as we were all waking up and pooped and peed normally. she did her first crazy dance and then ran to her new spot on the couch and just sat. she is very aggressive with caesar and he has to be kept separate for now until she feels better.

it looks like she has about 30 staples from her ribs all the way down. tomorrow we should have the news from the biopsys....keep your fingers crossed.

i am hoping to go back to work tomorrow with her in tote. i think the pain meds will keep her calm enough to not chew at her staples while she is with me.

that is all the news for now. betsey

[nala121498]

Oh the poor baby, you are such a great Mommy! Please keep us posted on how she does and I will still keep lots and lots of love and healthful vibes going for Beta!

[Mantis]

as the day passed Beta seems to be getting worse. she is refusing to eat and has started throwing up with a bit of blood. poop is now completely liquid. she is drinking water.

the stomach like attacks are lasting longer. today she had one that was 30 minutes! i am wondering if it is cancer in her stomach or something.....

i have talked with the vet and have adjusted meds to make her more comfortable.

test results should be in tomorrow.........

[Lenora]

Beta is in all our prayers I'm sure. Keep us updated. Lenora

[red and white furever]

More hugs and positive thoughts your way Betsey and Mantis. I can only imagine how helpless and scared you both must feeling. (((hugs)))

[ChaseandZahrasmom]

Betsey,

My heart goes out to you, I hope that they are able find something to help Beta. Our fingers (and paws) are crossed and you will be in my thoughts and prayers.

Jenn

[youngandtired]

You and your baby are in my prayers as well, I am feeling so sorry for your B, she is so sweet looking. I would be beside myself worrying if my Sahara was that sick. Please keep us posted, I hope it is nothing real serious!!!!

[JoeyQ]

I am so sorry you both have to go through this! I just can't believe no one can figure out what is wrong. Beta sounds like a fighter! (You too!)
Prayers and positive thoughts go out to you today!

[Mantis]

Beta seems to be better today.

Yesterday she was throwing up with blood, having trouble breathing, having the stomach attacks, and not eating.

I stopped by the vet and picked up prednisone which is a steroid commonly used to reduce inflammation in muscles and used in asthma to aid in her breathing.

I finally figured out why she isn’t eating. I think she has severe acid reflux or some inflammation in her esophagus. I mashed rice and put chicken broth on it and she still wouldn’t touch it. She is nauseous, but the pepcid ac and pepto bismol help mask that. I think made chicken broth and chilled it until it was room temp or cold. She sucked it all down with a voracious appetite. She hasn’t eaten in 3 days and has to be hungry. So, she is on chicken broth today and is loving it.

This morning Beta was alert for the first time in 14 days. Here eyes were clear and she was walking around the kitchen this morning. I really think the prednisone helped a lot over night.

She is with me at work and has taken her other meds including her pain med for the surgery. She is sleeping comfortably and is breathing easy which is a major improvement over yesterday.

The specialist says the test info should be in on Friday, Monday or Tuesday so it was really critical to get Beta to a place of comfort while we wait. I am hoping this is just some type of ulcer and not cancer or something else.

Here are a few pics of Beta this week.

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[jys1011]

Betsey no news is good news...so wait patiently for something positive to come out of this. We'll be thinking of you all weekend. It's good to hear little Beta was up & alert.

Still in our prayers.

[JoeyQ]

Beta does look a bit weak as compared to an earlier photo. After all she has been through tho, she looks like a fighter! The last photo is so sweet I just want to give her a big hug, but not too hard ;-) !

[Basenji_Boy]

Thanks for keeping us updated.........Get well soon Beta.

[seko]

What a lot of stitchies she's got. Hope everything is going to be back to normal soon for Beta and for you!

[Lenora]

Give her some smooches for us.

[red and white furever]

More hugs for you both!

[Mantis]

well, beta has been on the steroids and we have pumped her with pepto and pepcid and she is doing much better. it seems she stopped eating due to sensitivity in her throat. my theory is really bad acid reflux, which would go well with the irritated intestines, nausea and other symptoms.

she wouldnt touch the mashed rice and broth. i finally just made chicken broth and gave it to her cold and she scarfed it down. it has been two days now, and she is sucking down the pumkin pie filling, baby food (meat), boiled eggs and chicken and beef broth. she eats a little all day.

i am keeping her on all of the meds until we go next week for a check up, but it appears that the meds are resolving the issue, that is the steriods....

the biopsies came back and the specialist said there was nothing definative and to treat this as intestinal disease by putting her on a gentle diet. no rice, no corn, no fillers for the most part.

what i find funny is that she was on euk lamb and rice.

here is what i have learned. although the steroids fixed her problem, it was smart, i think, to do the surgery when the xrays, bloodwork, and urine came back clean because she was in so much pain. the doctor suggested the steroids might fix the now problem but could mask a hidden unknown that could resurface down the road.

at this point i have spend about 3500. she is getting better. i will begin researching diet and will probably get them on a diet similar to the raw diets, but cooked.

we have a lot of local basenjis that are on innova, but i will have to do more reasearch and talk with the vet about suggestions.

this could come back. i really dont know what could have caused it. her routine and diet are extremely controlled.

she still is a bit depressed and not as spunky as usual. she has done a couple of crazy dances and has started pacing again.

she has lost a ton of weight, but i am packing it on as carefully as possible.

thank you everyone for your support. i really felt like there were many days where she was in critical condition. i dont know if this is the end of this saga or not.

[Quercus]

<<what i find funny is that she was on euk lamb and rice>>

I am obviously not a vet, nor a nutritionist, but if this were my dog, I would probably check labels VERY carefully....I am not sure if euk l&R would be gentle enough for her....sometimes foods that claim to be a Lamb and Rice diet actually have just a little lamb, and other stuff that you may not want your dog eating. You may end up cooking for her, and adding your own vitamins and minerals.

Good luck, and I sure am glad to hear she is eating and feeling better.

[lvoss]

I agree with Andrea, there are lots of foods that say "lamb and rice formula" that have a lot more than lamb and rice in them.

Two companies that I know offer "allergy formulas" are Natural Balance and Wellness. The Wellness formulas use brown rice so probably will not work for you but the Natural Balance formulas use patato.

[tanza]

And I agree with Andrea and Lisa... you would be surprised what is in some of the foods out there....if you look at the ingredients for Euk Lamb and Rice, the 2 or 3rd listed is corn meal and the next is whole ground corn.... 99% of dry foods base is corn.... I know this cause my one bitch has a very bad corn allergy... and Lamb is not always the best either for a dog with food or digestive problems, it is quite hard to digest... There are great foods out there for digestive problems, Venison and potato, duck and potato, etc... you might also just try some canned only, I have a bitch that is in old age renal failure and she is doing fairly well eating canned Canidae.

[tanza]

Also, I saw in one of your posts that you said you were using pumpkin pie filler? Hopefully you meant, straight canned pumpkin... the filler has other stuff then straight pumpkin. You might also try yams or sweet potato, baked or cooked in the micro.

[Mantis]

yes it is straight pumpkin.....i have had vets suggest it in the past for my boy's anal glad problems ....it is helping her solidify that loose problem.

both of my basenjis have been on the same food for a while now. never had a problem with it before. but, i am going to work on putting them on something similar to the raw diet, but a cooked one, with the vitamins and oils they need. i will talk to my vet about it and let you know what she recommends.

beta is gobbling up the chicken and beef broth. loves the boiled eggs and shredded chicken. she is also eating the meat baby foods primarily along with the pumpkin. i am trying to get her weight back up. she looks like skin and bones right now. she is eating every 2 hours or whenever she is hungry.

anyone have their basenji on a raw diet?

i know corn is bad, but the specialist said no rice as well....

the specialist suggested a fish type eukanuba food, but my boy basenji hives with any type of seafood...so that is out.....

beta is still shaking and having the stomach gurgling. i will take her to the vet at the beginning of next week to have her staples removed. at that point we will readdress her diet, and meds and symptoms.

i am having a hard time determining if she is having the same symptoms or just reacting to the pain of the surgery. the steroids have really helped, but i know she shouldnt stay on those long.....she has been on the antibiotic for 2 weeks now....

[jys1011]

Oh betsey I'm so glad she's doing better. I really do pray that this is the end of her saga. It's such a relief that it could be determined as a serious acid reflux problem. Good luck to you both!!

Also just as an FYI...try the organic natural pet foods. I have discovered awful things about Eukanuba. I would also agree with the others that maybe for now it's best that you cook for her that way you know exactly what she's eating.

When Topaz was ill we did lots of baked turkey & chicken broth & sweet potatoes.

[jenwilson]

More thoughts and prayers to you and Beta! We anxiously await your update on her condition.

[Lenora]

Proof that prayer works even for little doggies! I'm glad she's better.

[JoeyQ]

Glad to hear Beta is improving! Have had her in my thoughts and prayers until I could get an update. I am starting to try to feed Joey a "rawer" diet. He hasn't had any digestive issues, I just think it is better for him. The breeder had been feeding him 1 raw egg yolk 2 times a week, raw lean hamburger meat, beef tripe, 1 tsp flaxseed oil/wk etc. along with kibble and cooked vegis plus more that I haven't started. I want to get a book about feeding a primarily raw diet. I suggest reading up on it as I am far from experienced in this subject. So far, Joey does well on a semi raw diet.
I sure hope Beta is on her way to a full recovery! (You mentioned the cost and I am glad that I have insurance for Joey even tho I haven't had to use it...yet).
Let's hope Beta starts the new year on a great foot...oops...paw!!

[Terry]

Check out Timberwolf Organics - expensive, but an excellent food with unique protein sources. They are online - I don't know the web site, but you should be able to Google them...
Another good food to check out is California Naturals.

Terry

[Mantis]

Beta had her staples removed on Friday and the vet said to treat her as if she has an intestinal disease. there are so many diseases out there that they cant diagnose which disease she has without her having the symptoms over time.

The vet said she should stay on the meds for the next two months.

3cc Pepto Bismol in syringe 2x a day
1 tab of Pepcid AC 2x a day (have changed to 1/2 tab 2x a day)
Prednisolone 5mg reduce inflamation 1/2 tab 2x a day
Flagyl 250 mg antibiotic 1 tab 2x a day
Tylan Soluble Powder antibiotic (over food) 1/8 Tsp 2x a day

I did a lot of research and BARF is not right for me with the present issues. I am feeding them a raw (no preservative) diet that is void of wheat, rice and corn fillers.

I found that the Natural Balance is carried in Feed stores and has several allergy or sensitive products for cats and dogs.

Beta is on the Duck and Potatoe wet food and eats 3 cans a day. I am trying to get her weight back. She is 17lbs right now and should be 20lbs for her to be healthy.

Caesar is eating the Duck and Potatoe dry food which Beta will be put on once she can eat textured foods.

The Natural Balance Duck and Potatoe is a no wheat, no rice, no corn, and no soy product. They have another one with fish, but Caesar's mom was allergic to salmon so i didnt want to risk it.

I also have the Duck and Potatoe hard treats whick Caesar loves.

I also found that the Innova Evo canned foods are 95% meat and void of the wheat, rice, and corn. This product is a bit more intense and I have it on order. My vet recommended venison. I will be mixing this as wet food in with their dry food when everything settles down.

I have a group of basenji owners (15 bs) that I meet with at the park on the weekends. They all have their kids on Innova dry which contains the meal. Remember Beta didnt dig the rice mashed when she was really bad which is why i am avoiding it now.

These foods are raw without being raw. I would suggest these to anyone. The kids have been on it for a week now and seem to love it. The canned food looks like corned beef and hash coming out of the can and not like nasty cheap wet food. It smells good also.

I am adding a pic of Beta and Caesar today.

Beta is still sluggish and not as perky as she used to be. She seems recovered from the surgery and has a soft belly. Now I am focusing on getting her back on her schedule.

I took Caesar and Beta to a local dog park yesterday because Caesar is so hyper with the less active lifestyle since Beta has been sick. He did his crazy dance at the park and had about 8 dogs running the crazy 8s. Beta trotted around a bit and sat with us (lap dog style) as we watched Caesar. It is good to get her out. when she is sheltered and pampered that snarfy bitchy b comes out in her personality. I think she had a good time and relaxed a bit.

Thats all for now....

[JoeyQ]

Glad Beta is on the uprise still. Thanks for the info on the food. I will have to try some of it.

[nala121498]

So glad to hear she's feeling better. What an ongoing ordeal. Let's hope it gets resolved for her (and your!) sake. You are one amazing Mommy!

[Mantis]

thanks for the support. i hope this thread will be informative for other b owners that have problems or similar symptoms.

this site is great.

[Mantis]

Hello,

She did really well last week eating and taking her meds. She went to a dog park with Caesar and trotted around a bit and then sat in my lap (her choice) on the bench for the rest of the time. She had her staples removed last Friday which did well. The vet added a powder antibiotic to her meds to aid with thickening her stool. The steroids seemed to really make the difference, until Wed.

All day Wed Beta looked lethargic, not moving much and just sitting on the couch. This was a perky basenji who never could sit still ever. She ate a can of food in the morning, but didnt eat after work. Took her meds fine.

Thursday morning. She still looked lethargic. I gave her the regular 3cc of pepto bismol and the 1/2 tab of pepcid. I waited about 30 min and she still looked like something wasnt right. I considered she may be in pain and i have been weening her off the tramadol pain med from the surgery. I am rotating it every other day now. So I gave her the meds with the pain med as usual. Then I offered her morning wet food which she didnt want. Thirty minutes later she threw up all of the meds.

I figured she just had an upset stomach and when to work hoping she would sleep it off while i was at work. I called the vet to document the vomiting in their logs.

I came home from work around 6. She wouldnt eat. She pooped a decent amount and it was almost solid. I gave her the pepto and pepcid as usual. She threw it up 30 min later clear foamy water in a small amout 2x. 30 min from that she had diarhea. 30 min later she threw up again, clear no foam lots of water 2x. 30 min later she had diarhea in the house, couldnt make it out. 30 min later she threw up a large amount of yellow clear color 2x. At that point it was bedtime and she woke me up at midnight to poop again and slept until this morning.

Now she is sitting next to me hungry I am sure, but no appetite. And the gurgling sounds are back. I am taking her in today for the nausea shot to hopefully help her calm her stomach so she can eat again. I ran to the store last night and will be starting again with chicken broth cold with hopes that she will keep it down.

I have decided that with this unexpected turn, that I am sending Caesar to Orlando with my parents for a week. My brother is home from college and can give him the excercise he needs. Since Christmas Caesar has started crying at 4am and 6am. He isnt excercising enough and also is just stressed about Beta. She wont play with him and he looks like he is going to explode. A trip to the park once a week isnt enough becuase he is missing his mommy one of one time.

That's all for now. Betsey

[nala121498]

Oh Betsey,
I was so hoping your baby was on the up and up. I know stomach ailments can be a trial and error thing. I know you will help her get back on track. My heart goes out to you. I'm sure Caesar will benefit from some one on one attention.
Hugs....lots of 'em...to you both.
Sharon

[jys1011]

Oh Betsey I pray that this is just a minor setback. Poor little Beta she must be so stressed about this & little Caesar must also be sharing in the stress. Hang in there & hopefully with Ceasar gone you can get a little relief from such a terrible ordeal.

Still in my prayers!
Jennifer

[Mantis]

Well I have dropped Beta off at the vet for observation today.

Caesar is with me at work having a blast sniffing everything. He will have a lot of fun spending the week with my family.

What is going on with Beta? Maybe it is an ulcer?

She couldnt take any of her meds yesterday and the original symptoms were present again this morning. The gurgling sounds, the gas and she did appear to be uncomfortable again.

[Duke]

I know you are doing everything for Beta - Bless you both. Curious if your vet has researched known Basenji intestinal disorders. I do not think Duke's current vet knows much about Basenji's, but if Duke gets sick, I will take him to a referred vet that knows this breed but is about 10 miles away.
As always, I am sending healing vibes to Beta.

[Mantis]

The vet knows about basenji diseases and I have given them tons of additional pwork with regards to any intestinal illnesses for basenjis.

The vet just called. They gave her a pepto shot in the morning to help with the nausea. Beta threw up at 11. Then they have her a shot of reglin? to help with the nausea and she threw up around 12:30. The doctor should call me shortly.

If anyone knows people who know basenjis (or are a vet dr, or know a vet dr), please print this thread out and have them read it and see what if any recommendations they may have. I will forward the suggestions or connect them directly with my vet.

Thanks for the support!! Here is a pic of Ceasar sleeping under my desk at work in anticipation for his mini-vacation while I take care of Beta.

[Mantis]

well the vet said she threw up 5 times today at their clinic.

she says that typically an intestinal disease will not relapse this fast and is worried that it is something else.

beta received fluids twice today by iv and 3 shots for nausea. hopefully the one right before we left will work. she threw up after them earlier.

i have now given her carafate which is some type of med that will stick to an ulcer if she has one.

i will try to see if i can get the pepcid in her stomach later.

keep your fingers crossed, i am hoping she will try the chicken broth later.

[red and white furever]

More hugs and positive thoughts coming your way. Hoping that Beta will like the chicken broth and be able to keep it in her tummy.

[jenwilson]

Thinking positive thoughts for your and Beta.... how terrible for her, you and Ceasar... My prayers are with you all as you contine through this ordeal. PLEASE continue to keep us updated. Thanks for the food information.... I just had an allergy problem with my basenji/whippet mix... we don't know what caused it, but the steroid shot and pills took care of it, but we have cut back on WHAT she eats... I may try some of the food you mentioned. Thanks again and God Bless you and Beta.

[JoeyQ]

Thanks so much for sharing your story. Yes, I am certain that it is helpful for all of us to have the information. Poor little Beta, I feel so badly for you all!! You are so dedicated to both your dogs! Keep your head up and think positive. You know how intuitive Bs are!

[Mantis]

well she was at the vet all day and still is throwing up. she has had diarhea twice today and the most recent episope has flecks of blood in it.

the inhouse specialist reviewed the case and looked at her and has suggested that it may be the meds? the pepto has aspirin in it so we stopped that 2 days ago. tonight she had the carafate and held it down. then the pepcid crushed and with water and she threw that up.

the specialist wants me to change to zantac instead becuase it has more of a nausea relief in it. she also said to feed her cottage cheese and soft boiled potatoes. i told her that would be great if she could hold a pill down.

she has had 1/4 cup of broth and i am hoping she can hold it down. she has had no solid food for 3 days now. i am sure she is hungry. i am supposed to try to get the steroid in her somehow, but we will see

if she doesnt start eating soon they suggest the scope to look at the intestines. they throw up with bile and the diarhea that is a wet liquid with brown granules in it is from the upper intestine the doctors say.

i am at about $4k so I am hoping that she will eat soon instead of needing more tests. They took her blood again yesterday and the results didnt show anything wrong.

[nala121498]

Oh boy...I feel so awful for poor Beta...she's getting such good care from you. I hope she starts eating soon. I think of you all often and am keeping her in my prayers. Thanks for the updates.

[Mantis]

Yesterday before bed Beta had blood in her diahrea. Not a good sign. I immediately kicked up my stress and mommy alert.

She woke me at 2:45 coughing (the wheezing sound mentioned earlier) or what I thought was her vomiting. She hadnt thrown up but was in distress. I could hear her gassy sounds in her stomach from the other room, which is amazing. I crushed up the reglan for nausea and gave it to her in a syringe with water.

30 min later I gave her the steroid praying she would hold it down. she hadnt held any meds or food down in 3 days. the reglan shots at the vet were even making her vomit. 30 min later the cough/gag/wheezing sounds stopped and she could breath clearly.

She slept the rest of the night in my arms on the couch.

So, the nausea med is 2x per day and was still in her system in the morn, so she was ok. I gave her the carafate for a potential ulcer. She kept that down. I then gave her another prednisone dose and she held that down. The crushing of all pills and giving it to her with 6cc of water or chicken broth seems to work now that the pills are too harsh in a swallowing form.

Now she is only to eat cottage cheese and boiled potatoe if I can get her to do more than chicken broth. She has eaten about 2 cups of it today and still hasnt thrown up.

The vets are concerned that the nausea meds were causing problems. The pepto bismol has aspirin in it and may be to rough on her stomach. The doc also had me change from the pepcid ac to zantac (1/4 of a reg dose). Apparently zantac has something in it that covers nausea better than pepcid. So I gave her the zantac around 2pm when her meds had worn off and she was starting to get nauseas and wheezy again. too early for pred and i was worried she would throw up all of the food i had worked so hard to get her interested in. she doesnt seem to react well to the zantac and i am not going to use it tomorrow unless i have to. the reglan is a 2x a day thing, but mid day it wears off.

so the vets have her on the cc and boiled potatoe because they are worried that she is reacting to a med or the duck in the duck and potatoe (which she loved).

i believe the problem that caused this relapse is the pepto, pepcid and zantac. they must have something in them that doesnt sit well with her. hopefully.

she is 16lbs now and i have to get some food on her.

they said if she doesnt improve over the weekend (which she has just by the not vomiting) that they recommend a scope to look into her tummy etc. it is frustrating they dont know what this is.

if they do the scope the specialist said that they usually put a feeding tube at that point. i am not ready for that. sounds too scarey.

so, all meds have stopped since she wouldnt hold them down.

now she gets the reglan for nausea
the prednisone for inflamation
and the carafate in case there is an ulcer

if she doesnt throw up tonight i will try to get her back on the flagyl for the antibiotic.

food is key.

here is a pic of her today hanging out on the couch.

[lvoss]

Some of the side effects listed for Flagyl are diarreah, loss of apetite, and naseau, and vomiting.

[red and white furever]

More hugs and prayers for you and Beta.

[Mantis]

well beta has been off of the flagyl and tramadol now. they want her back on it soon, but i am sure it isnt a parasite. but i will put her back on it if she stops the diahrea and throwing up for 1 week.

she slept all night and all day today. she ate less today but loves the boiled potatoe and isnt sure about the cottage cheese alone, but eats it mixed w the potatoe.

she pooped solid and florescent orange with some old blood. so things appear better. very quiet today. lets hope for a quiet week and that the food and the lessened meds will get her to a stable level.

caesar is having a blast at my parents. they said he was inspecting their kleenex box extensively. :)

[red and white furever]

So glad to hear that Beta is interested in food and sleeping peacefully! HUgs to you both! Also glad to hear that Ceaser is living large at your parents! I chuckled over the tissue box story! :)

[nala121498]

Keep us posted on how she's doing...lots of hugs comin' your way!

[jys1011]

Oh gosh Betsey I pray that things go better this week. The thought of little Beta at 16lbs is just too sad!!

[Mantis]

well the silent day she had yesterday hasnt lived long. beta woke me up at midnight to do something in the dark outside. she woke me at 5am vomiting.

in the morning she was shaking again. a tremor in her chest. the coughing was bad and the gurgling sounds were there again. she looked very uncomfortable so i decided to take her in to the vet and have a talk.

i told the vet that all of the meds as soon as they wear off dont seem to remedy the symptoms which is apparent. she agreed. the zantac did not relieve the nausea and i didnt give it to her again because she was so nauseous after recieving a dose that i was afraid she would throw up.

i said i wanted to do the scope. i dont know what else to do. the scope will go through her esophogus and all the way into her upper intestine where the vets think the problem is coming from, or the stomach.

they xrayed her chest to make sure she doesnt have any throat inflamation. she said there is always a concern about that with this procedure ($8-900 est cost). i will find out about the xrays tomorrow, but the procedure is scheduled for 10am.

i told the vet, even if her throat is irritated, it would be dumb to try to remedy that and risk her losing more weight and trying to do the procedure later. i would rather do this now since they have to put her to sleep than with her any weaker than she is currently.

i will fill you in on any news.

i picked beta up after work and she hadnt eaten anything. but didnt throw up. they gave her fluids and a shot of prednisone and nausea med.

the dog says the reglan is for nausea and the pepcid, or pepto, or zantac is to reduce acid

betsey

[Ambered]

oh betsey, i hope the scope finds whatever the problem is. poor beta. :( me and fender send her hugs and kisses. :x
GET WELL SOON BETA!

[seko]

I really hope they'll find the problem and can do something about it to get your Beta better pretty soon! Fingers cross and big hugs to your girl!

[nala121498]

I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that they find out something today and can help her get on the road to recovery ASAP. Update us when you can. I'll be thinking aobut you both.

[Mantis]

Hello,

Beta had the scope procedure today with the Oakhurst Specialist and the doctor that has been treating her. The Specialist called and reviewed her findings with me, and this is what she said in laymans terms:

The esophogus appeared normal until bottom which was inflamed.

The stomach lining should be smooth and shiney. She described Beta's as cobblestone like, pitted, rough and textured. I asked if it was only in one area and she said the entire stomach lining was covered in this texture. She said that a full blown ulcer looks like a volcano on their monitor and Beta's stomach was full of baby ucler like pits not fully developed if that is what she was seeing. She said that she hasn't seen a stomach look that bad in many years. I asked her to rate between 1-10 (10 the worst) how bad the stomach lining was, she said 7-8. She said the upper intestine was irritated and red but not out of the ordinary like the stomach. She took several biopsys for stat testing which will be back by Friday.

The specialist said that it could be a number of possibilities that couldnt be determined until the biopsys came back, but she suspects that it is the intestinal disease that we have already been treating her for (which would be disturbing becuase the meds havent improved her condition at all), or it could be an ulcer type disease. We have been giving her carafate for an ulcer since Friday and the reg doctor is surprised that visually there werent more improvements. The third possibility is a lymph type cancer that is hard to visually identify.

The specialist said that since i had mentioned a constant cough with mucus and that the night before Beta didnt move from 6pm until bed and was breathing short hard breaths, she would take the opportunity (since beta was already out) to flush the lungs with a liquid. The liquid is airrated out and samples were taken and put on a stat status as well. The reg doctor said that there was a lot of debris coming out of her lungs which didnt look great. This cough could be from Beta throwing up and inhaling some vomit or cancer or a few other things that I cant remember the details of.

The specialist and doctor agreed that Beta's condition is critical for the next 24hrs. She is on IV and will be given all meds through the IV to avoid stressing her stomach out more than neccessary. She is receiving shots of pepto and prevacid (the purple pill) and the carafate orally. They told me that i should have her under 23 hr care. My options were, Oakhurst who doesnt have a night staff, take her home with an IV, and the Largo ER.

The Largo ER or Specialist is where Beta had that first surgery that came up with nothing. I felt the care the provided was poor due to the nature of their business. Too busy to notice her pain, not enough attention, very loud. So my options really, were to bring her home with IV and cone and meds and put her to bed and potentially stress her out with the transport or having her at Oakhurst.

I decided it was best to have her there over night. She was extremely groggy from the last surgery so I expect she will be the same today. They are giving her pain meds as well and we hope that she will sleep soundly through the night. The Vets leave around 7pm and arrive 7am. Although I am emotionally stressed becuase she is not with me, I know she is in a place with faces that she recognizes and a stable and quiet environment. They are also looking for a medicine that is not common. Apparently the ER stocks it but would not release it to them because it was for their critical patients. I want to say it was the Prevacid or equivolent in IV form. The vet is scouting out other hospitals for the drug to see if they can find it.

She will receive protein and glucose in her IV as well to aid her nutrition and fluids to keep her hydrated.

It would be foolish for me to not consider the worst scenario, right? Cancer? If it is her entire stomach and lungs it may be unfair to Beta to keep her in a state where she can't eat or not feel pain. I hope that isnt what she has. The other two options are managable once controlled through medication hopefully. I really dont know what equates putting a dog to sleep, but if she cant eat, and is in constant pain, or is given a terminal diagnosis, I will have to deal with that in a manner that is respectful of Beta.

Money is always a concern right? Recently divorced and struggling on my own, I have sworn to myself not to allow finances make and determination on Beta's life. She is 4yrs old and if she can improve, I will do whatever I can do to get her healthy. This is what credit cards are for, emergencies. If anyone out there is going though similar problems, I hope the data we are sharing will help. My basenji's are my kids.

I will post the moment I hear anything about the results. Please keep your fingers crossed for Beta. The entire vet staff is rooting for her and they say she is a very strong girl for such a little Basenji.

Betsey

[MaxBooBooBear]

Betsey, I will keep all fingers and all toes crossed for little Beta. My heart goes out to you both. My thoughts are with you. I am hoping for good news. Lots and lots of hugs for you both. Caren

[Mantis]

thank you. you dont know how much it means to me to have a group to share this with. i am scared and stressed and havent been sleeping very well. we have a strong group of basenji owners in Tampa as well and they are so supportive to little Beta.

Beta was a puppy mill rescue from Nebraska with about 16 other basenjis. They had tried to get her to breed and she wasnt a year old. It appeared that she didnt have pups because they hadnt named or tagged her like the others. There were 7 females in the group and Beta was one out of 2 that were puppies or young. The other females were missing teeth and ears. She lived in a kennel at the puppymill that must have been too small because when I adopted her she couldnt stand up straight. She was bald in places and was urine stained. She was as thinner than she is now and her feet were twice the size from standing on the wire crate. My guess is that they pee through the cages and someone should have hosed the area out. She was a bag of bones and so scared of wind, sounds, airplanes, grass,everything. I have had her with Caesar who is 6months older for about 3 years now. It has taken me two years to finally potty train her to go in the grass. She would pace the floors and never sit showing that nervousness. Beta is an extremely submissive female which is funny if you have a girl. You know that snarfy is their MO. When she needs to be she is the alpha with Caesar, but she has a gently nature and big doe brown eyes. She loves to run and gets crazy if she sees a squirell.

That's my Beta.

[nala121498]

You are truly one AMAZING Mommy! I have been anxiously awaiting news on Beta and keeping you all in my thoughts and prayers. I am praying that it is not the worst, Betsey. I know this has got to be so difficult for you. Please know that we are here for you to support you during these trying times with your baby. Keep us updated when you can.
Big hugs,
Sharon & Nala

[jys1011]

Oh Betsey....you are an extremely strong & brave person. Please know that we are all praying with every ounce of our souls for little Beta. Although I've never met either of you, I feel extremely close to your pain. We are all sharing this experience with you. You are not alone & I know that whatever the results are you will do the absolute right thing that is best for Beta. You have shown your kind & loving heart from the very beginning with Beta and I'm sure that you will continue to make all the right decisions.

I'm hoping you have some kind of pet insurance to help you out financially. If not than I guess the credit cards will have to do. The reality is that caring for our loved ones (dog, parent, spouse, child, etc.) is a financial consideration. Unfortunately, this is the cruel part of making any decisions. I had to face the same decisions when father became very ill. In the end you can only do what you can & follow your heart.

Lots & lots of hugs & prayers for you & Beta!

[red and white furever]

Betsey and Beta - sending you more hugs and healing thoughts. You both remain in my thoughts and prayers and I'm hoping for a good outcome.

[Mantis]

thank you guys. the doctors think it is best that Beta stay another night and get those IV meds. they haven't fed her yet and are looking for a special IV med that they cant find.

well, actually, they found it at a local ER, but they wouldnt release it to them because of a potential emergency. can you believe that.

The IV med is called Aminosyn....

If anyone knows of a vet or vet ER that would have the med, please PM me.

Thanks!!

[Lenora]

Aminosyn is total parenteral nutrition which provides all the protein, vitamin and mineral, and caloric requirements that are necessary to sustain nutrition when absorption in the GI tract is impaired. It's not something hospitals just keep on hand because it has to be mixed daily in accordance with daily lab values. If your vet can find a regular pharmacy which mixes IV fluids for home health maybe they would make it up for a dog by prescription. If not, are there any veterinary schools near Tampa that could help? Auburn University school of veterinary medicine here in Alabama is one of the best vet schools in the country and I know they love to help with difficult cases. Might be worth a try also. Love and prayers to you and Beta. Lenora

[Mantis]

thanks for the suggestion. it's worth a try. my parents and brother are auburn alumni, maybe that will help.

[JoeyQ]

Betsey and Beta! I have not read the posts for several days and am just getting up to speed. In doing so, tears have rolled down my face. I pray for the best with Beta. You are providing the best care for her and hopefully the results will be the same. You are going through an extremely stressful time, but it appears that you have done "it" before and are a survivor. I think Beta with her past is a survivor too! I am glad that you have local support! Sending positivity to you through the airwaves! Sandra and Joey

[jenwilson]

Hey Betsey. More prayers and thoughts with you and Beta. What a strong dog she must be to go through such an ordeal. I so hope you are able to determine what is wrong and find a course of action to correct the problem. We will continue to pray for you and beta.... God Bless!

[Mantis]

well beta has been in critical care for 2 days now at the vet. she ate 3 pellets of soft food 2x today without throwing up. she didnt want to eat when they offered it late in the day.

prelimainary reports show that her stomach lining is irritated, funny right?

the vet says her lungs still dont sound great. she was given her last dose of meds at 6pm and is shuddering in my arms at home.

she is weighing 17.51lbs mostly from the hydrating fluids.

i am glad she is home but have strict orders to bring her back for observation tomorrow.

hopefully all of the results will be back tomorrow. keep your fingers crossed.

[red and white furever]

Fingers crossed for your Beta!

[nala121498]

ditto here...we're still sending thoughts and prayers your way!

[Basenji_Boy]

keep your fingers crossed.

It's hard to read this let alone experience it....thoughts and prayers and fingers crossed.

[Mantis]

Well, Beta pooped last night, had diarhea in her kennel sometime during the night and had only water diarhea this morning with blood in it. I realized this morning that she couldnt even hold the tiny amount of food she had yesterday and knew that she wasnt getting better with all of the medicine.

I took her in this morning and was just streaming with tears as I checked her in. It is just too much to feel her shudder like a leaf and nothing helps. So they took her and were to give her IV meds throughout the day hoping for news from the tests.

I received a call late in the day from the Gastrointestinal Specialist that did the scope. She said that Beta has been diagnosed with Hypertrophic Gastritis which is a rare disease in people and even more rare in dogs.

Giant hypertrophic gastritis of Basenji dogs.Krunngen HJ.
Giant hypertrophic gastritis is a newly recognized disease of adult Baseji dogs similar to Menetrier's disease of man. It is characterized by weight loss, diarrhea, dry coat, pale membranes, anorexia, raised convoluted rugae in the body of the stomach, palpable fluid- and gas-filled intestines, colonic inflammation, and radiographically demonstrable dilated intestinal loops. Laboratory findings include leukocytosis, neutrophilia, low hemoglobin, hypoalbuminemia, hypobetaglobulinemia, hypergammaglobulinemia, decreased serum fatty acids, hypocholesterolemia, indicanuria, low fecal pH, and increased fecal fat and nitrogen. Four dogs studied had gastritis with hypertrophy and diffuse lymphocytosis and plasmacytosis of the small intestine.

This disease in humans is called Menetrier Disease.

Ménétrier's Disease
Ménétrier's disease causes giant folds of tissue to grow in the wall of the stomach. The tissue may be inflamed and may contain ulcers. The disease also causes glands in the stomach to waste away and causes the body to lose fluid containing a protein called albumin. Ménétrier's disease increases a person's risk of stomach cancer. People who have this rare, chronic disease are usually men between ages 30 and 60. The cause of the disease is unknown.

Ménétrier's disease is also called giant hypertrophic gastritis, protein losing gasteropathy, or hypertrophic gastropathy.

Symptoms
Symptoms include pain or discomfort and tenderness in the top middle part of the abdomen, loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, vomiting blood, swelling in the abdomen, and ulcer-like pain after eating.

Diagnosis
Ménétrier's disease is diagnosed through x rays, endoscopy, and biopsy of stomach tissue. Endoscopy involves looking at the inside of the stomach using a long, lighted tube that is inserted through the mouth. Biopsy involves removing a tiny piece of stomach tissue to examine under the microscope for signs of disease.

Treatment
Treatment may include medications to relieve ulcer symptoms and treat inflammation, and a high-protein diet. Part or all of the stomach may need to be removed if the disease is severe.

The specialist said that in humans they cut out the area of the stomach that is effected. In Beta's case it is her entire stomach.

There is no cure for this disease. This is a precurser to stomach cancer in humans but they haven't found it in dogs. Apparently there are a few cases in basenjis, one boxer and a couple of dogs in Holland.

The stomach lining thickens. Remember how they thought it was the intestine folding over on itself and couldnt find anything in the surgery? Well, there is text online somewhere with reference to that in intestines which sounds similar to this and I wouldnt be surprised if they are not related.

So basically the stomach cannot hold proteins. Then the blood vessels cant hold the proteins and the fluid passes to a layer outside of the vessel causing the swelling. Last night when I brought Beta home I noticed her muzzel looked swollen again, but figured it was the IV meds.

We are sending a sample of her blood to a well known (they say) vet dr at Texas A&M who is doing research on gastrinoma which is a rare disease as well. They are testing with a new gastrin level test.

Anyway, there are two treatments in dogs. One is something called a sandostatin drug which is in the injectable form. And the other is monoclonal antibody. Apparently the two treatments prolong life a bit but the disease is terminal.

Beta's lungs came back with an increase of eosinophil cells. These can be caused by a parasite condition, a fungus (blastomicosis) or a sever allergy. We are giving and have given her from the beginning the prednison and flagyl to aid this. The doctors are not sure if this is a result of the stomach disease or not. They suggest that with this type of lung cell to use fenbendazole which is a super strong parasite anti worming med.

So, the specialist did another blood test today to review her protein level. Remember she has had about 3 of these tests with low protein levels, but nothing major. They say her protein is at 3.2 and the vet's regular level is 5.2 for the norm. She then gave me a formula about her protein. There are two types of protein, the albumin and globulin. She did some math equation that states Beta's globulin level should be 2.5-4.5 I think, and that her albumin minus the globulin is less than 1 and is life threatening.

What that means is, she can't hold her protein through food (because she can't hold her food), now her blood vessels arent going to hold the protein which is the swelling part.

All I know is that she hasnt eaten in 4 days, shakes, is in pain, and has diahrea with flecks of blood in it and she is depressed.

I brought Caesar home today. I picked Beta up from the vet with oral meds to give over the weekend. She is now on tramadol pain med as well. I had a discussion with the specialist that since she had already sent Beta's case to a few gastro doctors and she has this rare disease that has been found in other b's that I felt It is unfortunate that they can only prolong her life. It is unfortunate that no meds for intestinal problems, parasites, or ulcers have made one bit of improvement in her day to day life. I feel that it is time to put her to sleep or help her to the rainbow bridge as the b community says. I have scheduled her time to be Monday morning at 8:30 am which will allow the doctor to get samples of her stomach afterwards. I hope that the samples they take will be of interest to someone out there that will give the b community more info on this disease. I have challenged her and hope that it will help someone as I hope this journal of Beta's illness might help another B owner down the road.

I have thought about if it is correct to put her to sleep as opposed to her dying naturally and have decided that she will eat till her heart is content and throw up and have diarhea as much as she wants until Monday. She is suffering and I can aid that. I can't imagine keeping her in critical care on daily IVs becuase she can't hold food down. That is not the quality of life for my little Beta.

She came home today on some pain meds for sure. She has been fighting this for 4 weeks now and tonight she grabs her stuffed squirell and does her crazy dance on the couch for the first time! That is how I will remember her.

Blowing on her face and watching her run around the room in delight. Watching her wag her tail at me because she is so happy ( I didnt know b's could do that, Caesar doesnt) and remembering her beautiful timid , gentle and sweet nature. She is looking at me with her sweet brown bambi eyes right now and that is the face I will always remember.

This Sunday I will take her with Caesar to the West Park dog park in Tampa. She will meet with her group of basenji pals (10-15 local b's) to play and enjoy the park for as long as she wants. That group is her family as much as I am. They accepted her into the pack and loved her as a scared and hurt rescue, as a happy strong playful basenji, and now as a sick little girl. I will miss that bounce in her trot and the rare roo's she made. My little Beta.

If anyone is in the Tampa area, you are welcome to join us. I will arrive around 9am and stay as long as they want.

http://www.forthevoiceless.org/west_tampa_dogpark.html

Thank your for listening to her story.

Betsey

[red and white furever]

Oh Betsey - I am so sorry to hear to hear of the prognosis. I can't imagine how difficult the journey was to reach your desicion. Beta is a very lucky girl to have been so well loved and cared for and hopefully her story will help other b's out there who may be afflicted with this disease. Many hugs, lots of love, and all the prayers I can muster are headed your way. I wish I were closer to you to be at Beta's gathering, but know I, and many others in this community, will be there in spirit. (((((Betsey and Beta)))))

[MaxBooBooBear]

Dear Betsey,

I am in tears. I'm so sorry you and Beta have had to go through this. I am awestruck at your strength. There is much for us to learn from Beta's story--not just about Beta's illness, but about how to deal with situations such as this. I wish I could be there for Beta's last day in the park--you and Beta will be in my thoughts. Caren

[ChaseandZahrasmom]

Betsey,

I am so sorry, I wish there was something that we could do. Please be strong and know that you gave Beta a great life.

You, Beta and Caesar are in my thoughts and prayers.

Jenn

[Lenora]

Dear Betsey, I will have you and Beta in my prayers. How fortunate she is to have you as her mom and she knows she is loved. That's what matters most. Lenora

[seko]

Thanks to share all that with us, you''ll be both in your thoughts.

[SweetShelby]

Betsy,
I'm sorry and I share your tears. This is the hardest decision to have to make but you are such a good mom to think of your furbaby first. I also wish I could be there to give you and Beta a hug. Take care and you are in my prayers.
Winnie

[Duke]

Dear Betsey,

I read this last night - my heart broke and could not find words to express my sympathy, because all I could do was cry. On one hand I am glad that you finally found out what was happening to Beta. On the other hand, you've discovered there is no cure. Your heart and love for Beta is admirable. You and Beta will always be with each other in heart. I sit here and struggle keeping composure. You have a big support system here and hope this is of some help to you. From experience with my old boy Rocky, I feel somewhat connected with your courage and persistence to get Beta well again. Thank you for sharing your journey with Beta and know that your publishing will possibly help others to realize an otherwise difficult diagnosis. My thoughts and prayers are with you and Beta always.

Give your girl lots of hugs and kisses for me too . . . and a favorite treat.

[Mantis]

Today has been hard. I fed Beta baby food last night and she was doing great, spunky and alert.

Today she has received her medicine (no pain meds) and is eating and isn't shaking. I am stuggling with the decision to put her to sleep. I suppose I will just have to wait and watch.

I dont know what the right decisions are. I just think she shouldnt suffer. I dont want her to be at the vet hooked up to an IV all day. That is not the life I will allow. That is where I am now....allow...my decision....and is that fair to decide when.

I have options. I could let her keep going until she displays the shaking and pain again. I could just keep her on the meds I have left and when they run out not fill them anymore. I have spent over $7k and feel that it would be financially wrong to continue with procedures or new meds.

I could let her die naturally, but that could be when I am at work and she is in the kennel with Caesar. I dont know about that. And then I can't get her to that specialist for the samples on call. If I put her to sleep, the doctor can get as many samples to help with more research. I think that is important.

I also have thought a lot about Caesar. Beta has extreme separation anxiety and screams when Caesar leaves the house without her. She didnt do that when she was super sick probably because of the pain. I think although they arent litter mates that they have been inseprable for the last 3 years and he should be involved with her death by understanding that she is no longer alive in his world. I think that is important.

I think I will have her put to sleep with me alone. Then bring Caesar in to see her. I think that is what I want.

If any of you have experiences with this I would really appreciate hearing your feelings. I am so scared of making the wrong decision. I wonder if Beta is doing ok today because I have made the decision. I will watch her tomorrow at the park and decide Monday morning I guess.

Maybe it would be a good time becuase she is not in severe pain, she will remember the park and Caesar and me happy. Maybe it is selfish for me to wait for her to crash again. I am so selfish. I dont want to let her go. This is all about me and that is wrong. I cant fix it anymore.

I have never lost a pet before and it feels so much harder than the loss of a family member at a funeral. I am sure it is because I am deciding the ending.

You all have been so helpful. I have never had such hard decisions or ever been so lost and scared of being incapable to remove her pain. Thank you. I hate this soooo much.

[lvoss]

There is nothing that will make this decision easier. The hardest part about pet ownership is knowing when to say goodbye. I know you will do the best thing for Beta.

[MaxBooBooBear]

Dear Betsey, I would not presume to offer advice in a situation like this. But I can tell you what I have done in the past. I've had two beloved pets put to sleep in the past few years. They were my children; they were my babies. With both I made the decision to euthanize them right before they would have had to have been put on IVs because they were so ill. The first was Pepper--my german shepherd mix and Max's (my basenji) life long companion. I was with her by mysef with the vet. I did not have Max there at the vets and didn't have him see her afterwards. I came home alone to Max, and he did not suffer from any depression or seem confused--but every dog is different. With Max last year, I did the same thing--because it was so difficult for him to be confined anywhere, I had told all his doctors (vet and oncologists) that I would give him medical care up until he would have to be hospitalized--at that point we would put him to sleep. When I found out on a Saturday morning in November that his kidneys had gotten worse after a week of daily sub Q fluids, I knew it was time, and I had him put to sleep in my arms that morning. He was almost 16. These were the most difficult times of my life, and I know you will make the decision that is best for you and your beloved Beta and Caesar.

[Terry]

Oh, Betsey, I read your posts with tears rolling down my face. It is such a hard decision. But always, no matter what you decide, know that you gave Beta the love and the life that she deserved. She was lucky to have found you.

Terry

[Duke]

Dear Betsey,

In my previous post, I mentioned my old boy Rocky a Chow mix. He lived to just shy of his 16th birthday. He had a cancer on his rear thigh that we tried desperately to cure. It was the type of cancer that if wide enough margins of tissue could be removed, it might be curable. Long story with surgury, radiation and more surgery, it kept comming back. We knew it was all painful for him, but we had hoped we could get him cancer free. Unfortunately, he never ever recovered. It must have been unbearable for him to stand up and walk. Thousands of dollars later, we made a difficult decision. I began to feel selfish that he was living in pain just so I wouldn't have to say good-by. My husband and I decided to take him to his favorite park in our old neighborhood. We all delightfully enjoyed that hour that brought back so many memories. Rocky was excited and happy to be there. Then we took him to the vet's office, laid out his blanket on the grass under a tree outside. Rocky laid down on the blanket and we comforted him by his side with lots of happy talk. The vet came outside and gave him his last shot. He went to sleep dreaming all about squirrel chasing. I asked the vet if we could stay outside because going into the office had always stressed Rocky and I didn't want him to be that way. I knew the decision I made was right for him because he was no longer in pain. That was almost 4 years ago. I just loved him so much and still do.

Oh my - I hope my experience is of some help making your decisioin. It is one of the saddest, hardest things in life to go through. Again, my thoughts and prayers for you and Beta.

[Mantis]

Thank you. Beta's high or happiness yesterday was short lived. She played with Caesar a bit and was tired for the rest of the evening.

This morning she had some problems of the usual variety. Then she received her meds and a half a tramadol to give her less pain.

We took Caesar and Beta to the park and they had so much fun. The whole pack was there: Nikki, Topper, Eddie, Cally,Call's new brother, Frankie, Bella and all of the basenji parents. They all ran around together for hours. Beta out of character went to each parent and let them pet and love on her. She had a great time.

I will post pics from the park when I get them.

Betsey

[nala121498]

I can only say that my heart goes out to you Betsey...please give Beta a special squeeze from me and Nala. I don't think I could add to the wonderful advice given to you from the rest of the forum. Please know that my thoughts and prayers are with you all. Lots of love, Sharon

[Lenora]

Betsey, you and your little one are in my prayers as I know today will be very difficult for you. Lenora

[Ambered]

betsey, i am sorry you are going through this ordeal. i have heard of vets making house calls to make it easier on everyone. please dont beat yourself up anymore! <3 you are so kind to have saved little beta, and given her a wonderful life. bless you and beta.

[Triciaw]

Betsey,
I am SO sorry to hear about Beta. I know like me, she is your child.
I can sympathize and am crying as I type this.
At least you were able to rescue her and provide these last years of a loving home with the best care possible.
Hang in there........
(My dog Pikachu is Betseys other Basenji "Ceasar" s, Mom)
Love Trish and Pikachu

[Mantis]

Thank you. Today was the hardest thing I have ever done. Caesar went with me. Beta and I shared her last moments together. Then Caesar came in and wouldnt even aknowledge that she was in the room. Not even a sniff. I guess she wasnt there.

Today has been really rough and lots of tears. I will miss that little wiggle in her trot and those doe eyes.

The house seems empty but I have Caesar by my side and we are okay together.

Betsey

[Mantis]

here is a picture at the park...

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[red and white furever]

What a lovely picture, Betsey. Many hugs to you and Ceaser today. You've been in my thoughts.
Hugs,
Lorraine

[MaxBooBooBear]

Dear Betsey,

I am so sorry for your loss. You and your loved ones are in my thoughts. I am glad that you and Caesar have each other. I know you will be able to help each other through this.

Caren

[Lenora]

Betsey, you will remain in my prayers. We are all thinking of you. Lenora

[JoeyQ]

Betsey,
Prayers of peace and comfort to you tonight. Yes, dogs' senses are very acute and much deeper than ours so Ceasar did know Beta was not there. My heart goes out to you and I admire you for your bravery and strength through all of this. Know that Beta HAS the best Mom!!! ( A part of her will always be in your heart.)
Sandra

[Basenji_Boy]

My heart goes out to you Betsey, hugs and prayers as well. Beta's pain is over now and she is running and playing in a beautiful field of flowers.

Special Dogs......Very Special People

[jys1011]

Betsey many many hugs to you & Ceasar. I'm no sure there aren't any words that could ever make this terrible feeling any better. But I'll say them anyways, you are an amazing loving & caring person. I've never met anyone more concerned & completely selfless with their pet. I have no doubt that Beta's last moments were special & her little warriror spirit will live on to help many more Basenjis out there. Know that her death was not in vain and her purpose for being here was fulfilled.

Many hugs & prayers to you during this time.

[Quercus]

Betsey, I am so sorry to hear of Beta's passing. Thank you for going to the lengths that you did to find out what was wrong with her. That knowledge may be really valuable to the breed if this is something genetic.

She sounds like a real sweetie of a dog, and I am sorry she had to leave the earth so soon.

Hugs to all of you,

[Duke]

Betsey,

My condolences and sentiments are same as jys1011. God bless you and Ceasar.

[jenwilson]

Betsey, I am SO SO SO Sorry about Beta. We all know how much you loved her. You are not alone though... we are each hurting for you and we all know the loss is great and enormously painful. Thoughts are with you as you adjust to this loss in your life. God Bless you. I wait for the day you let us know you are ready for another B. Nothing cures pain like the unconditional love our pets our provide us with.

[nala121498]

Betsey,
I have been searching myself to try to add something to all the wonderful words everyone has said to you, but can't come up with anything else...all I can say is that I'm thinking of you and Ceasar and of course, Beta. I know Beta knew how much she was loved and had a wonderful life, thanks to you. ((Big hugs)) Sharon & Nala

[bellabasenji]

Oh dear sweet basenji girl... I feel so much for you, your pain and unfortunate plight. One thing I do know is you had such a wonderful, loving human mother. I pray that rainbow bridge merges with Heaven and that we will one day be reunited with our beloved pets.

[markusa59mn]

Prayers and Hugs, Luxor.

[Gondolin]

I have read your moving journey and it took me a few hours before I could write this down.
When you read this thread all together and follow you through your heartake, it´s absolutly heartbreaking. I started crying somewere in the middle and coming towards the end I couldn´t read anymore, tears blocking my view.
I have not yet experienced loosing one of my furbabies and I can only imagine the struggle to make such a hard desicion that you faced.
You have moved me in such a way that I will never forget you or your Beta.
Such humanaty and caring, what a wonderful place the world would be if there were more people like you.

I have no words for easing your pain, I can only send you my thoughts and my prayers.

I don´t know if you can find comfort in that your story has reached across the world since I am Swedish. I am sure that the knowledge gained from your experience will help someone out there and maybe you have saved another little Basenji by sharing this with us.

Like I said I will never forget you and my heart goes out to you in this your difficult time in life.

Sincerly yours Jeanette from Sweden

[Vegas]

Betsy, I am truly sorry for your loss, and share your tears.

basenji rescue has a bunch of dogs in Florida that need homes right now. I know getting another dog after your own dog dies, can sometimes even feel like an act of betrayal, but it really would be good for both you, and your surviving Basenji. Not to mention, the one that you would be providing a "forever home" for.

If you're interested, go to the www.basenjirescue.org website, complete the application, and somebody will contact you quickly.

Vegas

[Mantis]

Oh you guys are making me cry. Thank you for being basenji parents. This is one of the benefits of owning basenjis. The supportive and die hard addicted parents to the breed. Every basenji owner I have met is aware of their basenji's unique personalities. I remember bringing Caesar to the park and meeting about 9 red rescue basenjis and being amazed that his weird personality wasnt unique.

I see Beta everywhere like that Sting song about walking in the same footsteps....I miss her and am not shy about telling Caesar or mentioning her name.

Caesar immediately was more attention oriented. He was hysteric happy anytime he is let out of the kennel (huge, they shared it together). I have been taking him to work with me and he enjoys that.

Caesar is fine and I have considered adopting. I truely believe basenjis are happiest when there is more than one in a household. Beta provided a type of communication with Caesar that I will never be able to offer. They slept on top of each other in basenji balls. Beta used to hop up on the couch where Caesar was sitting next to me and lay down on top of him, even on top of his head, and he loved it, never moving. Silly b's.

I have decided that although my heart misses Beta, that would not be an appropriate reason to adopt again. I adopted Beta for Caesar when he was about 1-1/2 yrs. He had finally settled down from his puppy days and just needed more interaction than I could provide. He went with me to Gainesville to meet a hopeful girl from the Nebraska puppy mill basenjis that had been transported down for homes. He went up to her (starved, bald, covered in urine and looking worse than her on her last days) and licked her face.

I believe Caesar will tell me if he needs another brother or sister. I think I will probably go male and black and white, or brendle just to avoid feeling like I am replacing Beta.

So far he has been okay. He has trouble sleeping in the kennel the whole night and cries around 3am every night. I have been allowing him in bed which he loves and I will shoot myself later about.

This morning he went outside and wanted me to play with him. I open the door for him to come in and he does his basenji dance (you cant touch me!!) and wont come inside. I close the door, he scratches on it. I open it and he teases me again. "Come outside! Lay in the sun with me! Let's run our Basenji500 around the yard, I know you want to chase me!!

So, he could use a companion. I am not ready yet, but do confess to religeously checking the rescues and puppies.....

I hope I can hold out past the puppy season. It seems wrong to jump too soon.

So it is Caesar and Betsey for now. We shall see what happens.

B

[markusa59mn]

We're glad to hear you're doing okay Betsey and Caesar. Just the right attitude. Your description of the "come and get me game" is perfect. When you feel like it, we'd like to see more pictures of your park in Tampa and the the gang of B's. All the best!

[Vegas]

I remember that puppy mill. We had a houseful of them including two really sweet breeder mom's named della and daisy. Those dogs were in poor shape.

You'll be ready someday. Take your time.

Vegas

[Mantis]

just an fyi, i had the vet send two large samples for the dna testing for fanconi per the member request....

[jys1011]

Betsey so glad to hear that you & Ceasar are hanging in there. Give yourselves some time to mourn & heal after Beta's passing. There are plenty of basenji's to adopt in the spring time :) and maybe then you're decision will be less based on emotions but more practical.

Please keep us posted on Ceasar and yourself. Lots of (((HUGS)))

[Mantis]

Well I would have to say Caesar just doesnt know what to do with himself now. I never realized the benefit of the two together. Beta and Caesar were crated together at home while I was at work and crated together at night to sleep. Caesar is okay out of the crate when I am not home, but Beta was another story.

I have had Caesar sleeping in a dog bed at night out of the kennel and he loves it. When I have to go to work, he has been hiding under the table because he doesnt want to be in the kennel by himself, I think.

So I have been bringing him to work, but I know he needs more activity. I have begun to look for a male basenji to share our home. We shall see what happens.....

[Vegas]

Mantis, you should go ahead and apply with b.r.a.t. They have many more dogs than what are posted on their website. Right now is the influx of the 7-9 month old dogs that were born last spring.

Vegas

[nala121498]

Lots of luck, Betsey...it sounds like Ceasar would love the company. Keep us posted on how you're all doing and if you find that special friend for you both.

[Basenji_Boy]

I have begun to look for a male basenji to share our home. We shall see what happens.....

I hope you find one, fingers crossed.:)

[JoeyQ]

My son just a few days ago suggested we get another B. Caesar is male? I am curious as to why you will add a male as Beta was female.

[Mantis]

Well, I have decided to go male this time to avoid comparing, and to go with a puppy instead of a full grown basenji.

Also, boys act differently in dog parks. They tend to be more play oriented and outgoing where the females are watching and in control at all times.

IMO, there are certain definative behaviors from basenjis at the dog park. If I am standing, my bs will run and play (including the female). If I sit they immediately begin to guard me or our territory. The girls stay close to the owners and the boys will post like sentinals around the group to play and meet other dog park dogs. It is common for a female to try to break up the boys when they start to box and play together.

The girls tend to be more snarfy than the boys. Snarfy is just talking, but to a non basenji owner, snarfing at a dog park can sometime come off as hostile. We basenji owners know that our girls just talk that way.

I am hoping that down the road I will have a home with acreage again and then will look at adopting a female rescue again.

I feel that Caesar needs a companion and would enjoy having a buddy to show the ropes. Personally, I can't deal with a female basenji because Beta's my only little girl and I cant imagine picking out a female without compairing her to Beta.

I have found a boy puppy that is in a litter from a woman who has 2 basenjis that have had their first and only litter. Her basenjis live on a 3 acre lot with them as their pets. She will be fixing both of them and is not a breeder or puppymill person. There is nothing wrong with breeders IMO, but after seeing what a puppymill atmosphere can do to a dog, I am extra cautious and do not promote breeding basenjis as income.

Florida has a strong basenji community that is primarily rescues. All of the rescue dogs are lovable and fantastic. I realize that my Beta was a difficult rescue to have, but I was perfect in our home.

There are some beautiful rescues out there right now. On the Basenji Rescue and Transport site there is a basenji girl named "Bess" who is super cute and would be my top pick from the site if I were going with an adult. I have seen her pics before and the current pics just dont do her justice. She is a real angel.....

Today I picked out a beautiful urn for beta. There are a lot of urns out there that have that generic figurine of a basenji or the repetative picture that you see everywhere. This site has 3 basenji sculptures in bronze to go on top of the urn. The site is peturns.info if anyone is interested.

http://www.peturns.info/catalog/basenji_213087_products.htm

[jenwilson]

Betsey, I am glad to see you are looking into a playmate for Ceasar. Sounds like he needs a companion. Good luck with the puppy, I can't wait to see pictures.

[bellabasenji]

I know you would like to have a puppy, Mantis, but did you see Rocky on the Basenji Rescue and Transport? He was just added on the 22nd and he is a beautiful red & white! I think they said he is good with other dogs, but has not been tested around children yet. He is a fairly young guy! Just a suggestion, I know puppy love is sooooo hard to resist. It sure got to me when I 1st saw my Bella!! There were the puppy challenges of course, but I feel I bonded to her quickly because she was a baby.

[Mantis]

oh I know. I have been watching the rescue sites for a while now....just havent seen the right match there....

[Mantis]

BTW, the specailist called and left a message on my VM today. She was checking in and had more info from a few tests that have just come back on Beta. I will post her input tomorrow.

[Mantis]

The specialist contacted me today about additional test results that have been examined more extensively. Here is an overview of what she said:

Biopsy
Submitted stomach and intestinal
Assessment of pathologist
Hypertophic gastritis is definative
Intestine was also inflamed
Some features were consistant with IPSID
Problem w that type is it is non specific
Irritable bowel disease in basenjis can be IPSID, very hard to differentiate
Could be IPSID in intestines
The only article on the hypertrophic gastritis did also have IPSID mentioned in the intestines

Most basenjis that have IPSID have an elevation in gastrin levels
Acidity in the stomach
Her levels were normal. Doesn’t rule it out
Acidity test sent to Texas A&M

The doctor talk with others at the GI conference….

Lymphocitic plasmacitic aneritis(spelling) is what Beta had in her intestines.

IBS
Definitely- has on all 3 biopsies, 1st surgery, 2nd scope, and 3rd after death

Same principle as IPSID

Diet allergy seems to be the problem….with IPSID and IBS in basenjis
Both have malabsorption.
IPSID is more severe in basenjis genetically….

Specialist at Oakhurts Vet

They suggest changing the food on a regular basis to avoid allergies. Over active immune system in basenjis with IBS or IPSID.

Beta had been on the same food (Eukanuba) her whole life because Caesar's stomach is very sensitive with any food change.

If anyone has a basenji with IPSID or Hypertophic Gastritis or IBS please refer your Vet to this text or have them contact:

Dr. Cuypers DVM (female)
VM 727-517-7200

What has been so difficult about this is that Beta showed the shaking once 3 months before this episode when she had giardia. She would eat bits of towels and seemed to have a stomach of steel over the past 4 years.

No other signs were present.

She just started the second episode and didnt make it through. The doctors treated her with medicines for IBS and IPSID as well as for ulcerations and there was no treatment that improved her state.

One of the major flags what the intestine that was layered. The first doctor mentioned in the notes did the ultrashound and thought the intestine was folding in on itself which it wasnt in the surgery. Thickening of the intestinal walls and stomach lining were present with what Beta had.

[markusa59mn]

This info could save a lot of discomfort and pain for Basenjis/owners. Though rare, many could not go to the lengths you did to battle this illness. My B had stomach problems from antidiotics a couple months ago, it's so scary. Luxor has always eaten Iams Smart Puppy and now at 13 months, I'm going to switch him over to big boy food, any suggestions out there? All the best. Mark n' Lux

[Mantis]

I had switched Beta and Caesar over to Natural Balance Duck and Potato dry (for Caesar) and wet (for Beta's sensitive stomach at the time). The vet suggested this brand because as Beta's progression became worse they said diet could make the biggest difference if she had IPSID or Irritable Bowel Disease or what she actually had....

The Duck and Potatoe is a no soy, no preservative, no wheat, no rice, and no corn product. It is made as the sensitive food.

Now that Beta is gone, I am feeding the dry to Caesar (loves it) and the wet canned food will be for the new puppy.

I began searching for the best puppy foods within the Innova family or the Natural Balance family and found that the Duck and Potato I have been feeding them is recommended for puppies as well.

Thank goodness because I spent about $150 on the food....buying cases of the canned expecting Beta to have a long period of needing soft food.

The Innova EVO products are very popular in the Tampa FL basenji community. The dry form has some of the grain group that I was trying to avoid with Beta's condition. The Innova EVO wet food is 95% meat and the vet suggested Venison. I give it to Caesar as an added treat from time to time and he goes nuts.

The vet also said that the IBS or IPSID in basenjis is best controlled by switching their foods up so that the body doesnt have allergies to the foods and learns to build up strength in the intestines.

The Natural Balance line has several sensitive stomach foods as well as regular foor.

I didnt think the price was too much more than Eukanuba which is what I have fed my two for years....who would guess that Euk Lamb and Rice isnt great for your pup....

Here are a few pics I took on Beta's last days at home. I just found them in my camera....

Beta and Caesar sleeping together....Beta is the tri girl
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/SheMantis/lastdays4.jpg

Beta in the yard....
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/SheMantis/lastdays2.jpg

My baby girl....lovingly called my little Beta Potata
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e170/SheMantis/lastdays1.jpg

[markusa59mn]

Thanks for the info! Great pics, what a doll. Like my boy, you can't tell to look when the B's are even sick. It's their wonderful nature shining through.

[JoeyQ]

Thanks for sharing all your info about Beta, what a gorgeous face! I can see why you would compare other females to her. Thanks too for the insight on choosing a male. I wonder how Cesar would react to an adult male. I know Joey has hated other male dogs in the house or even other adult dogs. We did have a female pup, Havanese, here once and after the "introductions", they played like crazy together. It was a blast to watch!

[Mantis]

When I first aquired Caesar, he lived with my husband and myself in a townhome where he was an indoor dog. We took him to the dog park every weekend and he has become extremely socialized and well behaved with interaction with children, cats, and other dogs. He has never shown any interest in territory at our house when other dogs come in to visit.

Beta, she was very territorial...

If you have an opportunity to get to a dog park with another basenji, do it. It is amazing to see the similarities that you originally think are unique...like the stand off ish nature with strangers, or the crazy running, or the snarfy girls.

I loved my snarfy girl even when I didnt know it was okay for her to be snarfy. Once I was around other basenji females, I realized that is just how they talk when greeting. LOL

Two boys should be fun.

I am a little scared about it all. Silly right? Caesar has been extremely depressed, so I am sure it is the right thing to do, but I am very anxious about it all.

Waiting 2 more weeks doesnt help either!

[Mantis]

Here is a pic of the little boy...

[Basenji_Boy]

Here is a pic of the little boy...


Good luck to you Mantis, he's a cutie.......you deserve a Baby B;)

[jys1011]

Good luck Betsey..I'm sure that all that you did for Beta will help many families if they ever encounter anything like this. Beta's life has supreme purpose now...her little spirit will always be remembered in Vet Medicine & perhaps as a case study forever.

I have no doubt that you & Ceasar will provide a loving & caring home for this new little guy. Lot of ((HUGS)) and luck to all of you!

[JoeyQ]

Aaaaawwwh! What an adorable little fella! I do have to get Joey to the park. I left out one piece of info regarding his nature with other adult dogs...he wasn't neutered at the time. He is now and I will be curious to see if he remains terrritorial in the house. He is fine outside with other dogs. He is always good with kids and people inside or out. He greets people more readily than dogs and is only really standoffish when you really want him to do something. Then his "powers" become evident!
All the best to you, your new little one and Ceasar! You have a much deserved break coming your way! (Well maybe a distraction is more appropriate ;D)

[bellabasenji]

Awwwww, what an adorable fellow! Did you pick out a name yet?

[Mantis]

no, and it is sooooo hard. I have a thread going in the puppy section asking for help naming him....

[nala121498]

Your pictures are beautiful of all of your babies, past, present and future! Thanks for sharing...

[felakuti]

oh i feel so bad for you going through this with your baby. my prayers are with you. the picture was so sweet.