I cant take it anymore!

[lovemybaroo]

I am so frustrated and stressed out over my dog that I am ready to get rid of him. I dont know what else to do. He is so bad. He is disrespectful and even does things to spite me! I know that is the breed, but this is ridiculous! I spend my entire day chasing after him and rescuing my 2 cats. If he is out of sight I am wondering what he is getting into. I cant trust him. He chews things up, (but usually only if they are valuable or new, he seems to have a preference for those things) he torments my cats, eats their food, gets into the trash, pulls food of the counters, sleeps on my bed, (even though he knows hes not allowed), knocks over any drinks on my coffee tables, wont walk on a leash without trying to go after everything in sight, and just generally does whatever he pleases thinking everything is his. He refuses to listen to me or my husband, and is imposssible to train. We even tried the dog whisperer techniques with no luck. I have a 6 month old baby, and when he wants to play he will run him right over if he is in the way. He has hurt him several times by accident. I am confused though, because he is great around the baby for some reason, but wont give us the time of day unless he wants something. I know some of this has to do with his age (he is just over a year) but is he always going to be like this? Could some of this be because he is not neutered? Would it change that much if he was? I am new to this breed and we have only had him about 4 months, but I am seriously ready to get rid of him. I cant handle the stress and my poor cats hate him. I really would love to keep him, but I dont feel confident that he will change. Does anyone know how the rescues work? I want him to go to a good home, and not be left living at a rescue but I dont know how to find him a home because I live in a very small town. Please help! I would appreciate any advice you could give me.

[BDawg]

If you want to make it work, it's going to take a lot of work- which will be hard with a new baby. But it can be done! Talk with Quercus about some training techniques.

If you decide to put him in Rescue, please contact BRAT (Basenji Rescue & Transport). Their website is www.basenjirescue.org . They have Basenji experienced people who are dedicated to the breed and who will attempt to foster him before rehoming him to a good applicant.

Best of luck in whatever you decide. :)

[Quercus]

He will continue to be the same way, unless you change how you deal with him. What you are describing is pretty normal basenji stuff. Most of us make sure that the cat food and garbage can is out of reach; that there is no food on the counters; that there are no drinks left unsupervised on low tables; and we let them sleep on the bed. Basenjis usually chase cats if they run...period.

It sounds to me that a basenji is not the right dog for you. And it would absolutely be best to contact BRAT, no matter where you are in the country. Also, you should contact is breeder. If you bought him from a responsible breeder, they should be willing to take him back for life if he doesn't work out in your home.

If you should decide you want to keep him, there are lots of ways you could improve his behavior. The dog whisperer techniques are not magic. They only work if the person using them is consistant, and setting boundaries in every day life...you can't just start shshhhing your dog and expect his behavior to change.

I would start by neutering him,that won't change his personality or energy level...but it might increase his focus a little bit. Then simply keep him from doing the things you don't want. Close doors, use gates (see the thread about your basenji being smarter than a gate...it is an awesome gate). Keep him out of the areas that are off limits. Place things that are off limits out of his reach. And then take a positive reinforcement training class. To me it sounds like this dog has no clue he should even be listening to you, mainly because it sounds like his environment pays off way more than you do. If you yell at him a lot, he has probably totally tuned you out. You need to start over with any training you have done, to make you more interesting to him than what trouble he is getting into.

Good luck, I hope you can really look inside and decide if he is the right dog for your family. He sounds like a nice dog that deserves a chance to learn how to behave.

[lvoss]

I agree with Andrea and BDawg1005, it is going to take a big committment to help Baroo learn what is expected of him. I know you say it is out of spite but he really sounds like he just never learned.

If you need to find a trainer in your area you can start at http://www.apdt.com It is important that whoever you choose uses positive reinforcement training.

For your cats you should set up a "safe place". We have used a room with a baby gate across the door to give the cats a safe place. When we first got Nicky and we were still working with him on respecting barriers we actually had to put two baby gates up with a gap between that the cats could fit through but Nicky could not. Eventually, we were able to go to a single gate. If you cats run, Baroo will chase. Mine have lived with cats all their life and will still chase if the cats run but leave them alone for most part at all other times.

[jys1011]

I double DITTO everything said already.

If I could just add another point...it also sounds like the dog is tremendously bored with a lot of pent up energy. Do you exercise him regularly??? And I don't mean a leisurely walk at snail's pace. The key to to a calm dog at home is to tire them out outdoors!!

Basenjis are high energy dogs & some even more energetic than others. I have one who never gets enough (so he walks with a backpack) & one who is content with one walk a day. I actually run with my dogs & we roller blade on the weekends. If you watch the Dog Whisperer then you know that releasing their energy is the very first step in bonding with your dog & letting him know that you're his leader.

I know when my dog hasn't had enough exercise he starts messing with things & is just wandering about the house looking for trouble :D :D Like this week we couldn't do much because of the cold so he started playing hockey with my CDs & he never ever paid any mind to them before & the case was at his level always within reach but usually he's too tired to pay any mind to them. This week he was looking for entertainment :)

If you can't committ to a serious exercise regimen with your dog then I agree with the others give him up to a family who can. He'll be happier & so will you.

Good luck

[Vanessa]

After reading about your issues I can honestly say that I am starting to go through some of the same experiences you are. My Basenji is only 10 weeks old but he wants to chew wires, eat my clothes, claw the furniture and chase the cat every minute. Does he listen..not really. After you tell him no..he will go right back and do it again.
Here is what I have learned though. Having a Basenji is like having a toddler. The moment you look away they will get into something. When my little boy starts to chew my clothes I have to yell at myself for leaving them out for him to get into. Food can't be left out or else it is free game. You have to be consitant with everything and always keep treats in your pocket to bribe them. :)
I absolutely love my B though even though sometimes I could say a few choice words.
Just hang in there and be strong it takes time.

[jessi76]

ditto to what others have posted.

and to add my own 2 cents....

dogs do not know SPITE. it's a human emotion. dogs do not behave badly to spite you.

perhaps you should seek out some training classes - to teach YOU how to deal with these issues. They seem like typical stuff to me, with some positive training, and creating a more respectful relationship between you and your dog, things could greatly improve. I don't believe any dog is impossible to train. it's about respect, positive methods, and setting your dog up for success. training is also always ongoing. you must ALWAYS use the techniques, daily, in each activity that you do.

btw - "the dog whisperer" techniques are not right for everyone nor every dog.

[Basenji_Boy]

What all of the above said is true, Basenji's are like little kids........ADD kids!

I can't imagine raising a 6 month old child and a Basenji under a year at the same time. You may have bitten off more than you can chew.

Be consistant and patient it's not easy......always think ahead.

Good luck in whatever you do.

[Vanessa]

What all of the above said is true, Basenji's are like little kids........ADD kids!

I can't imagine raising a 6 month old child and a Basenji under a year at the same time. You may have bitten off more than you can chew.

Be consistant and patient it's not easy......always think ahead.

Good luck in whatever you do.

Hahaha! I could not agree with you more B Boy! Total A.D.D.
I think sometimes..when I am telling him no that was a bad thing and he ****s his head and looks at me with those little eyes..I am sure he is thinking...go chew on anything and everything. Momma doesn't mind!
:rolleyes:

[Basenji_Boy]

Hahaha! I could not agree with you more B Boy! Total A.D.D.
I think sometimes..when I am telling him no that was a bad thing and he ****s his head and looks at me with those little eyes..I am sure he is thinking...go chew on anything and everything. Momma doesn't mind!
:rolleyes:


As long as you keep that in mind you should be able to stay one step ahead of them.:eek:

Sounds like all is good with your's.......so far.:D :D :D

You will soon be ready for #2!:D

[Vanessa]

As long as you keep that in mind you should be able to stay one step ahead of them.:eek:

Sounds like all is good with your's.......so far.:D :D :D

You will soon be ready for #2!:D

Bite your tongue B Boy ;)
Number 2....No Way Jose!! One keeps me on my toes..Two will have me pulling out my hair :D
Maybee when Chance gets a little older...Much Older

[Duke]

Bite your tongue B Boy ;)
Number 2....No Way Jose!! One keeps me on my toes..Two will have me pulling out my hair :D
Maybee when Chance gets a little older...Much Older
But . . . Chance is so cute and adorable! He couldn't possibly have mischievious tendencies - could he? The Basenji's looks are quite deceiving and not to be mistaken of a fool. But with proper Basenji training, they are as good as they look.

lovemybaroo - You and your little furbaby deserve proper training. I took Duke to PetSmart's Intro Obedience training. It didn't take long to catch on. They actually train us to train our dogs. This forum and the Obedience training has been a big-big help to me. I realize you have your hands full though. If you must find another home - Please call BRAT. Good luck - I'd be interested if you keep us posted. :)

p.s. I believe a sense of humor should be a prerequisite for "Basenji slaves". :D

[Basenji_Boy]

Bite your tongue B Boy ;)
Number 2....No Way Jose!! One keeps me on my toes..Two will have me pulling out my hair :D
Maybee when Chance gets a little older...Much Older

Two play together and keep each other busy and company......a bored Basenji????:) :D :D :D :D

[Ambered]

lmbaroo,

i feel your pain, besides the lovely pics i have posted under the game thread, this past week fender also destroyed a pair of shoes. not just any shoes, my ballroom dance shoes that were over $100 :( the good news is that the local cobbler will repair them for 14.00 and i will have them in time for dance class on thursday. i have a three year old son. fender is "his" they sleep together and fight over toys. he has better days when we spend at least an hour walking. i tie the leash to the stroller and we are off. he has no choice but to walk close, and he wants to pull he will be tired very fast! fender is 8 months old btw. i got him in october. my unfair advantage is i have just been thru the terrible twos with my kiddo (i have more patience now than ever) plus i grew up with Bs, so i totally knew what i was getting myself into, but there is no other kind of dog for me. the eyes, the wrinkles, the baroos :)
good luck

[Shyla]

Here is how I see it. Puppies and dogs are a commitment just like a child. You need to commit to your puppy that you will love him no matter what and take care of him. What everyone is saying is soo true my B is a toddler looking to explore and investigate. It is my fault if he gets into something not his. Yes I will be one mad mommy but I am at fault. My children have learned that if they leave their toys out and Guru (our B) chews them up the toy goes in the trash. Guru doesnt get in trouble he saw something that looked like fun and wanted to play.

I also have a six month old and our puppy does great with him but I am right by my son everytime Guru is near him to make sure there are no problems and keep both puppy and baby safe from harm. I have spent the entire time since we got Guru training my children and him to be good and gentle with each other. I know it will take time but I am commited to Guru and he is a part of my family. Each person in my family has a part in taking care of Guru. My oldest who is six is teaching him tricks, my 5 year old helps feed him and makes sure he has water, my 3 year old gives him treats and puts him outside when we go places, my 6 month old has given him treats and pet him. Me and my husband clean up after him and do the major training and correction. Mabey you should try getting into a class to train your B.

I wouldnt leave the baby alone with the puppy until he is good with the baby just like I would never leave my 3 year old alone with the baby while I go potty. He might do something he shouldnt because he doesnt know what is okay and what is not.

I hope this doesnt offend you but that it helps you.

[Vanessa]

Two play together and keep each other busy and company......a bored Basenji????:) :D :D :D :D

I don't disagree with that BUT c'mon. 1 B is enough for me right now.

As for little Chance getting into trouble...it's 24-7. This little guy is getting into everyting. We had our first B-500. It was more like a B-250 since he is a pup. He is so clumsy that he hit everyting in sight! He needs a helmet! My glass table is taking a pounding from him. :o

[tanza]

And I also agree with the other posts here, this might not be the breed of dog for you especially with a baby.... Sounds like he didn't have much early social training, as if I am reading this right, you got him at about 7 months old? Have you talk to the breeder? As Andrea said a responsible breeder will take their dogs back if they don't work out.... and if not then BRAT is a great choice to find him a suitable home.

For the "baby" puppy (10wks) what you describe is typical puppy... attention span, nil..... nada.... empty!!!!! LOL

[mahendra_suri]

You have the wrong breed. Sighthounds and herd dogs should not be around kids. Kids run around like crotch goblins. Sighthounds, like the Basenji, will chase and trip up your kid and friends. This is how Basenjis hunt. Herd dogs have a genetic disposition to round up and confine moving things, like cows, sheep or kids.

I can only forsee disaster for you and your Basenji. As you have a new kid, your attention will be devoted there. Your Basenji will pick up on these cues and start hanging around your kid and probably become aggressive towards you. Please contact BRAT. They will find a good home for your Basenji.

Basenjis are alot of work. They require alot of exercise and attention. You are already in a losing battle. And now a kid? You should reevaluate your situation. My recommendation would be a gun dog. They are trainable and behave more like a dog. This is what you seem to want. Don't buy a water dog. They have more oil in their body than most breeds. This oil insulates them from cold weather. Unless you are an avid water fowl hunter the oil is not a problem. If you don't hunt the oil will be all over your house along with a rancid doggie oder.

Bruce Fogel, DVM has published an encyclopedia of dog breeds. He devotes a page per breed. This includes a photo of the breed along with icons denoting items such as trainability, grooming, exercise requirements and socialbility. Do your research.

Narrow your feild to 4 or 5 breeds. Then talk to breeders. They will inform you if the breed is good for your situation. If they don't think the breed is good for your situation they will recommend a bred that is.

You probably got a Basenji based on size and grooming requirments. Should this be the case, look towards gun dogs. They typically average 20-30 inches at the shoulder and 40 to 60#. A little bigger than you want, but the personality is more akin to what you want.

Talk to a BRAT Rep. They are better equipt to analyse your situation and provide you with a resolution.

[Quercus]

<<Sighthounds and herd dogs should not be around kids. Kids run around like crotch goblins. Sighthounds, like the Basenji, will chase and trip up your kid and friends>>

That is just not true. Sighthounds and herding dogs can live perfectly well with children. And I don't even know what a 'crotch goblin' is, but personally I find that term offensive.

[Vegas]

If you do stick it out you'll have to change your life a little. Certain things seem second nature to me. I know to pick up my drink when I leave the room. I know to scoot everything back at least 8 inches from the edge of any counter. I know to look behind me as I'm walking out the door, and to grab dogs when guests are leaving. I know that I will never be patient enough to train any basenji to stay out of a trash can, so it is under the sink with hidden child-proof locks so the basenjis don't open the cabinets.

You need as much training as he does. Don't beat him--it will not work, and is counter-productive. He will learn nothing but spite, and fear from being beat. It will almost never correct the behavior that you do not like.

He is in his "terrible twos" right now. If you stick it WILL PAY OFF. You've got another challenging year ahead of you.

I encourage you to keep educating yourselves on the nature of the breed. Whoever sold him to you did you a major disservice by not telling you about the breed.

It sounds like he's taken your baby up as a littermate, and is treating him as such. That's not good. He's not going to hurt the baby bad, but he's also going to respect him or uh...disrespect him as another puppy, instead of respect him...uh...er uh...disrespect him as one of his humans.

I encourage you to check out all of this site: www.basenjicompanions.com

Listen to Quercus--She knows her stuff.

[Vanessa]

You have the wrong breed. Sighthounds and herd dogs should not be around kids. Kids run around like crotch goblins. Sighthounds, like the Basenji, will chase and trip up your kid and friends. This is how Basenjis hunt. Herd dogs have a genetic disposition to round up and confine moving things, like cows, sheep or kids.

I disagree with what you posted. Basenjis get along great with children IF trained well. I am sure everyone has a difference of opinion when it comes to children and dogs. BRAT is a great altrnative if you find that a basenji just isn't the dog for you. This forum offers wonderful advice from people who know this breed inside and out.

[Quercus]

<<Listen to Quercus--She knows her stuff.>>

Aww.. thanks Vegas. I learned a lot form my mentors and lists and forums like this :)

[Vanessa]

<<Listen to Quercus--She knows her stuff.>>

Aww.. thanks Vegas. I learned a lot form my mentors and lists and forums like this :)


I second that! :D

[Basenji_Boy]

I second that! :D

I'll third that!

We are very lucky to have some people on the forum willing to share their long time experience with this breed.:cool:

[jys1011]

I'll third that!

I quadruple!!! :D :D :D LOL

If you do stick it out you'll have to change your life a little. Certain things seem second nature to me. I know to pick up my drink when I leave the room. I know to scoot everything back at least 8 inches from the edge of any counter. I know to look behind me as I'm walking out the door, and to grab dogs when guests are leaving. I know that I will never be patient enough to train any basenji to stay out of a trash can, so it is under the sink with hidden child-proof locks so the basenjis don't open the cabinets.


This is so true..I dont even think about some things anymore & it's only been a few months...isn't it great how well we are TRAINED!! LOL :D

[Mantis]

any news or updates?

[miss_sada]

I think that Basenji's are not for everyone and they are like having a child for their whole life span. I personally could not imagin having a baby and a Basenji at the same time. Since I have had Sada, I have said that the dog runs my life I don't run hers. I know most people would say this is wrong but I am ok with this. I enjoy my basenji she make my day everyday. It sounds like you have alot on your plate with a new baby and a high energy dog. Don't think you are a failure if you can not keep up with you basenji because they need a lot of attention and excersise. If you do decide not to keep your basenji I do agree with some of the other comments. You should look into the BRAT rescue group. I fostered for them and they are wonderful and dedicated people who will find a good home for you dog. If you do decide to keep your boy, be patient and consistent. When Sada was younger I just excepted and learned to laugh at alot of things she did and she had turned out to be a wonderful dog. GOOD LUCK!!!!

[Mantis]

Hey guys, I talked with lovemybaroo and she is still sticking in there.....

Please post your favorite tips to gain peace in your home for her.

[Mantis]

from lovemybaroo

Thanks for replying. To answer your question, yes, I do still have Baroo, and yes we are definatly fighting the daily battle, but now I actually feel like I win sometimes. I think somehow he realized that I was threatening to get rid of him, because after that he starting coming around. He is still bad with the cats and the trash, and a few other things, like chewing things up, but that is occasional. For the most part he is better, so we have decided to give him another chance, and now we are getting too attatched him to give him up, behavior problems and all. We are working with him as much as possible, and have made some changes, which for the most part seem to be working. After reading some other posts, I have gotten a baby gate, which works great (I don't know why he hasnt figured out that he could easily jump over it, but he doesn't) and we also now use a squirt bottle which also seems to do the trick, but you have to catch him in the act, and he is pretty sneeky, so that only works sometimes. I have also used a bungee cord to tie up the trash can so he can't tip it over. So now he just pulls things from the top whenever he gets a chance, which is not great, but I have learned to pick my battles. As far as walking him goes, I got him a harness, which has made such a big difference. It is so much easier to walk him now. I tried running him on my bike, but after a few close calls with me almost doing a nose dive because of him running after other dogs, I dont know that I will try that again, although it did wear him out. Im just not sure it is worth the risk. I have also looked in to getting him a backpack to help tire him out on our walks. I have heard that does the job pretty well.
There is still several things that need to change with him, and we are working on the major stuff, but in the mean time we have just tolerated the rest just to save our sanity. He has his problems, but he is one of that family now, (even if my cats still hate him.) I guess we have just adjusted to the fact that that is just how the breed is, and we will have to work around it and try to outsmart him. I would be very interested in hearing any other tricks that worked for you though. I am always willing to try something new.

[jys1011]

The backpack is a GREAT HELP!! I use it every morning & I think it even calms my dog down as far as pulling goes. I put two water bottles about 1lb each.

Try putting Vicks Vapor Rub on the things that you don't want chewed. The bitter apple does NOTHING for our dogs but this Vicks vapor rub stuff is like a horrible odor for them. The second they see the bottle it's OFF to the living room :D :D and will also help your sinuses too ha ha :eek:

good luck!

[gbroxon]

Hey guys, I talked with lovemybaroo and she is still sticking in there.....

Please post your favorite tips to gain peace in your home for her.

One thing I've learned is the idea of managing rather than trying to eliminate a behavior. For example, my boy does not like to be moved when sleeping (wakes up growling and snarking); however, his nighty-nights are spent in my and my husband's bed, and he's usually in bed before us, and almost always in one of "our" spots. Because we like him to sleep with us, we started to manage his snarky behavior by calling his name, demanding an "off" (the bed) and a "sit" and rewarding him for the off-n-sit with a tiny treat. He's become so used to it that he now just does it, without us saying a word.

[Vanessa]

Try putting Vicks Vapor Rub on the things that you don't want chewed. The bitter apple does NOTHING for our dogs but this Vicks vapor rub stuff is like a horrible odor for them. The second they see the bottle it's OFF to the living room :D :D and will also help your sinuses too ha ha :eek:

good luck![/QUOTE]

Vicks does the trick. All I have to do is open the bottle and our little guy knows its nasty. I don't even want to imagine what it tasts like :rolleyes:

You really have to choose your battles with Basenji's. I have come to learn that some days are better than others. One day he can be the sweetest little guy and the next, pure evil!
It can be really tough at times. To the point that I need to leave the house to regain my sanity :o But all in all..just look at that face. Im a sucker for those wrinkles.

[alkite]

I think managing B issues is a good thing. Some things can be helped with training, but there are some B behaviors that just seem to be inherent. We have a hallway that, for reasons we cannot fathom, the dog likes to poo in. We've tried about everything under the sun both chemical and environmental (longer walks, timing his food intake and so on) with no luck. It's like he was saving a little just for that hallway. Brown carpet + dog poo = glad I wasn't barefoot. Anyhoo, we finally just put up a baby gate and eliminated (no pun intended) his access to the area.
It seems like we adjust our behavior to suit his more than the other way around :D

[jessi76]

to keep the peace in my house I rely on our training... daily. Literally, not a day goes by that my dog isn't asked to work a bit. we will run through some drills for dinner, treats, play time, affection, a walk, etc.

there are a few things that I adjusted - i.e. trash is kept in a closed closet, toys are kept on the top shelf in another closed closet, cat food, treats and toys are kept on a high table and pushed wayyyy back, etc...

but mostly we use our words to control the dog. down, wait, leave it, give, on your blanket, touch, come, stay, off, etc... are all part of our daily vocabulary and routine.

that's not to say we haven't had some funny yet trying moments, where something got shredded, the cat got pounced on, or he's jumped a fence to run through horse poo only to come in and jump on my kitchen counters....

sometimes, you just have to laugh.

[luzmery928]

I'd like to start by expressing to you how happy I am that you decided to keep your B and tough it out. I must admit there are times I want to throw in the towel, especially when I'm cleaning poo and pee after a long day of work with a pile of dishes, laundry and dinner to keep me busy for the following hours but even while I'm on my hands and knees and using not such lady like language I turn to him and he's looking at me like are you done being mad can I get a kiss now and yes after a short time of venting to my husband on the phone I end up admitting that I could never give our Champ away. I agree with the other members about proper training and getting info on our B's. And yes it is my fault that I leave the closet open and my food and drinks so close to the edge because I have not done my part in telling him and conditioning him to listen and behave. And I don't know about you but I've noticed that eventhough my B is very hyper and jumps on my face at times, he is also gentle and so cuddly at others. It's a long battle but knowing we are not fighting this alone and alot of owners have been able to work with their B's to live happily does give hope and helps move forward, together, one day at a time.

[Duke]

With proper training, (us and them) the living together part is so much easier. You almost forget how difficult it once was. If Duke didn't crave forgiveness with his hugs and kisses like he did when he was a pup - I don't know where he would be. I just couldn't give up all his loving. So we toughed it out, found this forum and went to a dog training class at Petsmart. I still have to get back for more training and especially with our new puppy. See? I got another one - wasn't so bad, the rewards are the best. :)

[Vanessa]

One key piece of advice which I have learned, you Basenji is just like a child. If it is out in the open, it is considered your Baseniji's. Especially if they know it's yours. They just love the thrill of knowing it gets a rise out of you if you go after them. There have been many days I am chasing my basenji throughout the house trying to get my shirt, shoe, socks, etc. It doesn't matter. They just Looovvveee attention. Keep doors closed and items high enough to where it is hard to get to and watch em like a hawk ;)
It sounds like a lot to do but it is far better than finding your favorite shirt with holes in it ;) GGGGRRRRRRR!
I have to remind myself all the time, you have to give to get from a Basenji standpoint. Keep treets in your pocket, that will help a ton!
I wish you the best of luck and let us know how it's going :)

[basenjibratz]

Does anyone have any more updates from LoveMyBaroo? I think I'm going to save her first message if anyone wants to know what it takes to own a baby basenji.

Speaking of backpacks...I'm looking into one for my Basenji boy. Do you have any suggestions as type?

[luzmery928]

I use the hound dog back pack.

[RockysWoman]

<<Sighthounds and herd dogs should not be around kids. Kids run around like crotch goblins. Sighthounds, like the Basenji, will chase and trip up your kid and friends>>

That is just not true. Sighthounds and herding dogs can live perfectly well with children. And I don't even know what a 'crotch goblin' is, but personally I find that term offensive.


I must agree with Quercus here. B's and children can co-exist quite exquisitly... but you MUST teach each of them their boundaries. We have an 8 year old B, a 6 year old Papillion (another suposid "no kids allowed" breed), a self-elected ruling Himilayan cat, and two daughters (3 years and 7 months respectively).

The dogs (both of them) know the boundaries with the kids as far as what is okay and what is not ok (this does not stop them from begging for handouts when the kids are eating though). We also teach our kids what is appropriate from day one (gentle pets, no pulling on ears/tails/feet/legs/genetalia/etc, no harassing dogs when they are eating, etcettera). There have arisen situations (always when we are present) where our toddler pushed the boundaries and both of our dogs have repremanded her, just as they would a pup in their pack. And in those times, I've told our toddler she deserved it due to her actions against the dogs. I may sound harsh, but the kids have to realize the dogs have emotions and limits too. And guess what, Kid learned what good behavior is towards dog. Dog also learned that it isn't some worthless thing that always gets blamed for everything.

I have found both our dogs (especially our B) to be tender, protective guardians of our children. Our B helped our toddler learn to walk by letting her hold onto his collar while walking; they helped the kids learn to hold onto their food 'cause it's all fair game once food hits the floor.

It truly comes down to training, and it takes a lot of time. But regardless of what breed of dog you own (and trust me, I know tons of "gun dogs" and "water dogs" who never learned manners around kids and run rampant all over them and their owners), you must TRAIN YOUR DOG AND YOUR KIDS to respect each other. Plain & simple.

[RockysWoman]

Keep doors closed and items high enough to where it is hard to get to and watch em like a hawk ;)
It sounds like a lot to do but it is far better than finding your favorite shirt with holes in it ;) GGGGRRRRRRR!



For our household, we created "Rocky's Rules of Order" to help everyone (aka my hubby) learn how to live with the dog:

1) If you left it on the floor, and the dog ate it, shame on you. Don't blame the dog.
2) All laundry (clean or otherwise) must be put away promptly. If Rocky finds it and eats it, shame on you.
3) All trash cans must be enclosed with lids.
4) All kleenex boxes must be at least 3 1/2 feet above the floor.
5) Do not leave food or coffee unattended.
6) Diapers MUST go in the diaper geanie!!!!
7) Dogs must sit at the door and you must exit out before they are allowed to go outside.
8) Whatever the dog did to the cat, the cat probably started it. Don't blame the dog.
9) Close off the bathroom.
10) Find at least one good thing a day the dog has done (without you asking for it!) and reward him.


Good luck LoveMyBaroo!

[Vanessa]

"Rocky's Rules of Order" need to be posted in my house :)
Number 9 seems to be the hardest though. Chance just loves any opportunity to run with the TP when I am taking a shower :(
Before I know it, My house is a paper trail mess!

[StellaGirl]

Their is a good web site to try for traing Bs is site just for them Basenjivideo.com good dvd

[basenjishunt]

If your "b" does something wrong...take a newspaper, roll it up really tight, and hit yourself on the head with it!!!:D

[luzmery928]

If your "b" does something wrong...take a newspaper, roll it up really tight, and hit yourself on the head with it!!!:D

Craking up...:D

[luzmery928]

Their is a good web site to try for traing Bs is site just for them Basenjivideo.com good dvd


Do you have this web site. I'm so desperate right now I need all and any help.

[BillyK]

He is so bad. He is disrespectful and even does things to spite me! I know that is the breed, but this is ridiculous! I spend my entire day chasing after him and rescuing my 2 cats. If he is out of sight I am wondering what he is getting into.
I will repeat: dogs (or any animal for that matter) do nothing out of spite. Basenjis are animals and driven by centuries of instinct. Those instincts: chase, smell, hunt, reproduce (get him neutered), chew, to name a few.
I cant trust him. He chews things up, (but usually only if they are valuable or new, he seems to have a preference for those things) he torments my cats, eats their food, gets into the trash, pulls food of the counters, sleeps on my bed, (even though he knows hes not allowed), knocks over any drinks on my coffee tables, wont walk on a leash without trying to go after everything in sight, and just generally does whatever he pleases thinking everything is his.
Basenjis are not out to please anyone but themselves - "What's in it for me?" is what drives their 'choices' and you have to think about them in that way. My cell phone bears the teeth marks of a dog that wondered if it was food or just crunchy. Jenny loves to eat wooden knitting needles. The first thing I did was teach sit by NOT allowing her outside (or back in) until she sat. I had to very gently push her butt down at first and then open the door immediately upon sitting. After a few days pasted, I would just tap or touch her rear and she would sit. The same drill for food - once a day.

He refuses to listen to me or my husband, and is imposssible to train. We even tried the dog whisperer techniques with no luck... I know some of this has to do with his age (he is just over a year) but is he always going to be like this? Could some of this be because he is not neutered? Would it change that much if he was? I am new to this breed and we have only had him about 4 months, but I am seriously ready to get rid of him.

I have a lab-mix and a basenji, and the lab was easy to train, receptive to traditional-type training and no longer eats cat poop, garbage, food from the counter or coffee table. BUT she WAS very interested as a puppy, just easy to redirect with appropriate chew toys, treats. I got the basenji as a 7 month old (estimate) and for 2 months she was very difficult in all the ways you mention, but I also anticipated this and began researching positive training methods. Cesar's methods are more for dogs with behavior issues, but it sounds like your dog is just being a dog. If you got your's at 7-8 months (as per your info) then you should remember that it takes a few months for an older (not 8-12 week old) dog to aclimate. I thought IMPOSSIBLE at first too. But that is just not true.
Check out www.clickertraining.com for some positive, effective training ideas. The basenji is an intelligent, sensitive, independent animal - like many sight hounds or scent hounds - and needs mental stimulation to stay out of mischief.

I cant handle the stress and my poor cats hate him. I really would love to keep him, but I dont feel confident that he will change. Does anyone know how the rescues work? I want him to go to a good home, and not be left living at a rescue but I dont know how to find him a home because I live in a very small town. Please help! I would appreciate any advice you could give me.

I have 3 cats. Some cats are not into having a dog invade their space. It is up to you to let your cats know that you are somewhat in control of the situation. At first I had to get between the dog and cat, but they have worked it out.
Finally, see the thread about rollerblades and biking as a way to tire your dog out. The basenji is a runner and needs the release. Imagine how you feel after being cooped up at work or school or home sick, and imagine how good it feels when you are free from those things. That is what your pup and you need - stress relief.

[luzmery928]

I just looked on the link..thanks for the info. Was wondering I have a 1 year old b for 2 months now and ready to pull my hair out (rather then continue allowing him to pull on mine) and wanted to get some feedback on that clicking method.

[lovemybaroo]

Well I guess I should take a minute to reply to you all who have offered me so much help and insight. We have decided that Baroo is now a member of the family, and we are going to stick it out, come what may. He has gotten better about a few things, but for the most part it is me who has changed my habits, not him. I am learning that he really is just like a child and you have to learn to work around that, and even outsmart him. I will tell you though, baby gates are a great thing! I dont know why I waited so long to get them. I now have more control and less stress. It is a lot of work, but it is proving to be worth it. Baroo is a great dog (when he chooses to be) and now I could never think of getting rid of him. He has also proven to be a lot better around my son than I thought. I had concerns a first, but now he has taken a liking to my son, and hangs around him all day, letting him pull on his tail and choke him even, without so much as a growl. I actually think he believe that my son is his master. He takes his toys to him to play with and even tries to share his food with him, although Baroo wastes no time in sharing my sons food! I really think he will be a great family dog, just with a little more training. We still have a few things to work out, and my cat still hates him, but I think they will just have to learn to live with each other for now. Maybe I will try to train the cat not to run, because there is no trying to train the dog not to chase him! I might have better luck with the cat anyways :)
In the mean time I have adjusted my life around the dog, and he is starting to settle in and adjust to us. I think he just wasn't comfortable enough with us yet, but we are getting there. Everyday is a battle, but I am taking things one day at a time. I am confident that he will eventually come around, so for now I just look forward to that day.
Thanks to all of you for sharing, and please let me know if you come up with any more tricks for training. I can still use all the help I can get!

[dash]

That is great to hear. I am sure most of us have had the feeling we were in over our head and venting seemed to help. It definately will take time to get into a routine and with a little one it will be difficullt to keep many things out of reach. I can already see your B stealing a dirty diaper and running away with his new "prize"

Basenji's are frustrating at times because they think so independently. You must be on your toes as all times. Watch for pacifiers-they will get stolen.

I have to say I think that was the most frustrating part was Dash stealing things. He doesn't necessarily want it for any reason but he takes it and runs. He has learned to drop it when I say drop and the issue is over but I think he enjoys it. It is a way to get attention from me even if it is negative.

Good luck and keep in touch.

[jys1011]

YAY BAROOO!! :D :D :D

Trust me it does get better with time. You get smarter & he WILL get better. Sometimes it's just about being patient & outsmarting them :) Like most children they WILL get into things within their reach but they also do need discipline.

[gbroxon]

...He has also proven to be a lot better around my son than I thought. I had concerns a first, but now he has taken a liking to my son, and hangs around him all day, letting him pull on his tail and choke him even, without so much as a growl....

I think your son is still an infant (8 months or so?); too young to be aware of consequences. I truly don't mean to sound harsh, but if your B (or any dog, really) is not in the mood (or is not feeling well) for tail pulling or choking, you may have an accident on your hands :( . Please be watchful!

I'm so glad things are working out for you and yours!

[nomrbddgs]

I'm so glad you decided to stick it out! They are like children-forever!

[Ambered]

yay! i am thrilled! you know what we need?
PICTURES! :)

[nobarkus]

The old saying " A worn out Basenji is a good Basenji" is true. I've had Basenjis for 30 years, and had some challenging tuff ones too. I never gave up and they turned out to be real troopers. You have to work at and establish a relationship with them. What ever you feel and how you react they will feel and react. Basenjis will pick up on your frustrations and anxiety and will be a problem. You have to change your thinking and how you feel.

[Vanessa]

I have to agree with the statement above..."a worn out Basenji is a happy Basenji"
That is the HONEST truth. You can't fight it. They will win. Basenjis will fight you till the bitter end. I learned the hard way. :o

[nobarkus]

My blk/wht as a puppy was so crazy and energetic. Do what I did and get another Basenji and they'll target each other. It works! Don't get a puppy though. Get a rescue that's a little tough to handle him. Also behavior problems can stem from feeding a bad diet like supermarket dog food that's made from meat by products and grains. Go to a pet feed store and see if they have Innuvo EVO. It's high quality. Also take him to the vet for a check up. Behavior problems can stem alot of the time from physical problems. My 14 year old tore up a chair cushion because he was in pain from a bladder infection.

[luvsmy2bs]

The other dog idea worked for me. I know it sounds like a lot to take on (not to mention my son is 17 -- a senior this year --boo hoo--not a baby anymore)and it is but it has been well worth it. They play together constantly and wear each other out. The only real problem I have is walking them together they want to play and wrestle. Any suggestions?

[Vegas]

The other dog idea worked for me. I know it sounds like a lot to take on (not to mention my son is 17 -- a senior this year --boo hoo--not a baby anymore)and it is but it has been well worth it. They play together constantly and wear each other out. The only real problem I have is walking them together they want to play and wrestle. Any suggestions?

walk them separately!:rolleyes:

I'm glad you stuck it out. Many basenji owners go through "The school of hard knocks" on their first basenji.

I came real close to getting rid of my first one because the parentals didn't like the fact that he needed to dig holes (in furniture) to hide in while we were gone.

The first one is the toughest. Consider getting another one. I know it sounds crazy, but it really does make life easier. They like their own kind.

Keep it up!

[Barklessdog]

The first one is the toughest. Consider getting another one. I know it sounds crazy, but it really does make life easier. They like their own kind.


Very true, ours was like any only child - constantly need to be entertained or he would cause trouble- the second dog comes along everything changes.

His focus was the other dog- what's she getting that I'm not, then the constant playing with each other like little maniacs, wearing each other out.