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Thread: Trembling Jaw

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    Default Trembling Jaw (updated 1-16-08)

    Update 1-16-08: I need some healp.

    One of our Basenjis has recently started having what look like spasms in his lower jaw. Usually they happen when he is waking up or going to sleep, but we notice it more when he is waking up. His jaw will rapidly open maybe a half inch and close over and over, like he is chattering his teeth, but not really making contact when closed.

    Many times, it seems like he will yawn, then do it maybe 4 or 5 seconds later, but he will do it even if he does not yawn as well. He will do it a few times, then stop.

    My wife talked to the vet and she asked us to try to record it, which we did(when I get home, I can post the videos here maybe). She thought it was probably neurological and they want us to bring him in today for some tests. Any idea what kind of test they could do and has anyone heard of this before?

    Please see my post below for more info.
    Last edited by LeeL; 01-16-2008 at 03:32 PM. Reason: Update

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    From what you are describing to me it is common. We have a one year old who does that with his lower jaw when he is getting yelled at. I'll tell him No and he will immediately start to make those smacking sounds and his lower jaw will quiver. I don't know why he does this .

    Two Years ago, we had another B who died of a neurological disorder. He was only a few mts old. He would have these tremors when he would first wake up. Almost like a seizure. Then he would snap out of it and seem fine. After a few weeks of this he started to wable while walking and fall over. We contacted a neurologist and was told that our little pup was ill.

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    Tucker also does this sometimes. Mostly when scolded or just after a 'confrontation' with another dog. I think it's something similar to when we (the humans) have a near miss with a car accident or almost trip and fall - the resulting adrenaline sometimes causes us to tremble a bit. Ya know?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TuckerVA
    Tucker also does this sometimes. Mostly when scolded or just after a 'confrontation' with another dog.
    I do it too when the wife scolds me, before and after a confrontation.
    Can't help it.

    I'm kidding!!!!!!


    I've seen it various times, for various reasons......sometimes if they've just smelled something unusual.

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    Nala chatters her teeth on occasion too. I've often wondered why...

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    I have seen him do it one or twice before, but for the last few weeks he pretty much does it every time he wakes up. Usually, he will yawn, then start doing it.

    My wife took him to the vet and she saw it happen a little bit. They did a ton of blood work which all came back good so now they want to x -ray his head. She thinks it could be a result of TMJ or something and gave us some pain meds to see if it stops, but so far it has not. Who knows.

    I will spend pretty much whatever it takes to keep the dogs healthy, but sure would not want to spend hundreds or eventually over $1000 for an MRI or something to find out there is nothing they can see is wrong.

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    OK, we took him in for a battery of tests and blood work and nothing. Then they gave us some pain meds in case it was TMJ issues (I thought only humans had problems there) which had no effect. We then took him in for an x-ray and they found nothing. Now, the vet is consulting with someone over at the NCSU Vet school in the Neurological dept as she feels this is the most likely cause.

    I will definitely post a video of this when I get home (I assume Youtube is the way to go, but I have never used it) for people to see as the next step is most likely an MRI, which will probably be a couple grand. Not that I will not pay it, but I don't want to pay it based on the Vet's lack of having seen this in another dog before to then hear they found nothing wrong (well, I would be happy of course) since, given some of your descriptions, it sounds like it could be totally normal. It has not gotten any worse over the last few weeks, but then again, I would sure kick myself for not doing it if it could help the guy. I am just kind of stuck.

    Is it common for pretty much all blood work to be fine if there is a brain tumor or nerological disease?

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    I'm sorry I can't help with the issue, but for the video you can also use Photobucket

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    Thanks, I use Photobucket for lots f forums pics and had forgotten about video there.

    Here they are. The first is kind of dark and unfortunately he started doing it and I did not have time to mute the TV.



    The next 2 are the next morning with a little more light.


    Last edited by LeeL; 01-16-2008 at 10:21 PM.

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    You know I watched this and I really don't see anything that was not normal?
    Pat Fragassi
    Tanza Basenjis
    www.tanzabasenjis.net

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